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  • JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST A PIGEON JUST HIT MY BEDROOM WINDOW

    And this isn't even the first time that's happened. I guess that's what happens when you live near a nature reserve. orz
    Obviously, we only have canon birthdays for Miku, Rin, Len and Luka. But if Miku and the twins were 16 and 14 respectively in 2007, and Luka was 20 in 2009, this would mean that Miku should have been born in 1991, the twins in 1993 and Luka in 1989. And if the Cryptonloids aged in real time, that would also mean Miku should be 30, the twins should both be 28 and Luka should be 32 in 2021.
    Seeing people talking about their "Vocaloid phase" makes me sad/grumpy, because they perpetuate the myth that Vocaloid (and vocal synths in general) has gone dead when it never did, the nature of the fandom just changed. (More specifically, the Western fandom moved past its weeaboo stage and matured.) It also makes me feel kinda weird as someone who hasn't stopped listening to Vocaloid since I discovered it in 2008, because nowadays vocal synths are almost like a genre or style I listen to and judge on its own merits alongside the multiple others things I enjoy.

    To further illustrate, I have multiple Vocaloid albums sitting alongside trance, vintage electronic, punk, New Wave and pop albums on my iPod. At some point, I know some metal stuff will be on there, so it's gonna turn into a musical potpourri.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    I can understand what you're saying. Personally, I think those sorts of discussions about a "Vocaloid phase" irk me for a different reason: they imply that whoever is saying it was into it for awhile, and then grew out of it in the same way that they grew out of other childish things.

    I think it's best to take what they say at exactly face value, though: it was a thing that they went through and then moved on from. Personally, I only discovered vocal synths 4 years ago, and I regarded what I found as something valuable. I've committed large quantities of time, effort, and thought to learning new skills; come to better understand myself and other people; and appreciated new artwork and music. I intend to stay. For whatever reason (maybe to some extent because of the earlier "weeaboo" mentality), their experience was more temporary. I do wish that, whether intended or not, they could keep their implication that a vocal synth interest is something childish to themselves, though. Because, whether it actually is or not (which I think is debatable), an interest even in things associated with children does not necessarily yield only childish results.
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    @mobius017 Oh, the "childish" implication irks me too! Some people in nerd circles still look at you funny if you're an adult who listens to Vocaloid, as if it's something squarely aimed at kids and teens. (Never mind the deep learning curve for vocal synths...)
    sketchesofpayne
    sketchesofpayne
    Yeah. It sort of confused me when I first heard people talk like that. I got into Vocaloid when I was in college back in 2007. Early on it was young adults that made up the main demographic of fans.

    What has made me stick around for 14 years is the crowd-sourced, by-fans-for-fans nature of the songs, art, and animation. There's a sincerity to it all that you don't get anywhere else. A person doesn't make a Vocaloid song because they want to be in the spotlight. They do it because they have something inside they feel the need to express. And the anonymity and abilities a vocal synth provides allows some people to make music who otherwise wouldn't have.

    There are no executives or marketers to tell them what content is or isn't allowed, or whether to publish something or not based on how well it will sell. Plus, it's amazing to listen to all the covers and remixes people are able to make without some record company issuing takedown notices.

    On top of all that, the technology is cool. It's been amazing seeing it improve over the years.
    The recent discussion on the Anri thread about babyfaces has made me realise that I've managed to shed off my babyface status by cutting my hair short. Prior to that, people would legit mistake me for a 15-year old when I'm actually 25. Nowadays, I probably look like an undergrad student rather than the PhD student I actually am, but at least people automatically assume I'm an adult now lol.
    Got the third section of my tattoo sleeve done yesterday, and now I'm halfway through! I also thought it would be a good idea to finally show it off on here.

    Apologies for the potato image quality and darkness - my phone's camera sucks lol.
    Sometimes, I do miss having long hair, namely the ability to wear ponytails. But then I start remembering how much of a nightmare it was to maintain my hair when it was long and curly (frizzy ends and lengths... o_e), and the horrible state it was all in by the time I did cut it short. Although I can't really style my short hair any differently from its default state now, I'd still rather keep it short than try to grow it out again because I know history will repeat itself if I did.

    I'm also starting to realise that instead of actually wanting long hair on myself, I'm just attracted to women with long hair. Lol.
    Guess who's stepdad has tested positive for Covid on a lateral flow test, and is now waiting for a PCR test to properly confirm it? 🙃
    AAAHHH MY DISABILITY LETTER HAS FINALLY BEEN FULLY FIXED! I was gonna complain to my needs assessor about not responding to my email from last week, but a new letter came through this afternoon saying that my academic tutor has finally been amended to the right provider, which means I now have my old tutor back! Now everything on the disability side of things should be in place for my PhD. :)
    Miraculously, the disability team have corrected my letter within a day, so now I officially have my old mentor back! Unfortunately, I've had to contact my needs assessor again because they haven't corrected my academic tutor, and I know that's gonna take all month again. But at this stage of the PhD, the work is fairly light, so I don't need academic help just yet.
    I ask the disability team at Student Finance to amend my providers, and not only have they only changed one of them, it's not even for the right service. (My specialist mentor has been listed as an academic tutor.)

    Right now, I feel like jumping out my window, especially since I've waited nearly three weeks for the amended letter to come through (because the disability team take ten years to sort out anything).
    Fee's entire existence has really made me think that I was too harsh on Kafu a few months ago. PR and VB issues aside, at least Kafu wasn't intentionally conceptualised to be problematic.
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Fee is undoubtedly worse but imo Kafu is close second cuz the situation involded child in real life, it only brings it down cuz I don't think anyone was purposefully malicious as you said, still, I think it's important to encourage critical thinking of the whole situation, the communication in the project wans't adequate as it should've been and it's important to make sure that criticism is heard ( while also not policing ppl who wanna use/like her )/
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    @patuk Don't get me wrong, I still find Kafu's production a bit sketchy considering Kaf is still a kid, but like you said, I don't think Kafu was created with malicious intent. Kafu has also been getting a surprising amount of good originals which have helped me warm up to her VB, though her initial promotion helped a lot, even with the PR disasters.
    PS-X
    PS-X
    Yeah like….KAFU just had a really rough development behind the scenes, and in the end, everything turned out fine-ish. But with FEE, one of her selling points is quite literally being a sexdoll :ring_ani_lili:
    The second part of my tattoo sleeve is done! It's an assortment of orange flowers to compliment the red flowers I got back in June, and to build up towards a rainbow flower sleeve. Now I remember how much the healing process sucked last time, so I'm not looking forward to three weeks of stinging and itchiness again. ^^;
    My unconditional offer from uni has come through, which means I'm officially due to start my PhD this September. Now all that's left is my disability support, which has just come through this afternoon, but unfortunately, I need to email some people because there's a few problems with the PDF I received. (Basically, Student Finance are messing around with my providers again.)
    Uni's sorted out again, for now - turns out I didn't need to send in any more documents and the admin managing my application made an error. Considering that my longer proposal has now been approved, everything should be ready to go now. The acceptance email mentioned something about an interview, but I dunno if I'll receive anything about that, the way Covid keeps affecting everything.

    At his point, I'm just waiting on disability support at uni to be approved. Hopefully, I won't be waiting for much longer - one of my support providers keeps nagging about sending them the legal document that tells them what support I'm entitled to, which I clearly don't have yet.
    So, the good news from uni is that my longer proposal has been approved! Turns out that they were waiting for my main supervisor to approve something, which he wasn't told about until yesterday and he had to contact IT because he couldn't perform the necessary actions within the system until today. The bad news is that uni is now asking me about missing documents, and the only thing I can think of that is genuinely missing is a transcript of my Master's grades, mainly because they never sent me one when I ordered my Master's certificate earlier this year. So yeah, not looking forward to scrambling around for that, if it's the case. :confused:

    Why does my uni only tell me about important shit at the last minute? I wish they told me about anything missing last month.
    I've gotta say, seeing the beta Rin and Len designs getting official love is giving me life. (Which begs the question, do beta designs for Meiko, Kaito and Luka exist?)

    In other rambles, my phone just tried autocorrecting 'Kaito' to 'Keith'.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Do we know that Len was intended to be male to begin with? Women voice males in anime all the time, but at least to my (American) mind, having a woman voice 2 girls makes more sense, so it might make sense if it were the intention initially. Maybe they decided Len's voice fit a male better, or decided that making a brother-sister pair was better for some reason. With Kaito being the only other male Cryptonloid, maybe they felt that a younger, higher-pitched male vocal was a good idea?

    Just my opinion, but this artwork makes me think that Len was originally designed as female. Because, with the hair clip, facial style, sailor suit motif, etc., I see a female.
    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    @mobius017 : don't also forget before voicing vocaloids, Asami Shimoda voiced a pair of twins aka Ami and Mami Futami from the [email protected]
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    @mobius017 I heard somewhere a long time ago that Rin was originally conceived as a single VB, but Crypton picked up on some demand for a Japanese male on V2, so they added Len.
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