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  • After that conversation I went to look into the deepvocals community more just to see whats up, theres apparently some VCCV workaround which is cool but man does the community have some superiority complex :teto_lili:
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    Honestly, I've always thought DV, while it has cool features and such, looks significantly more outdated than Utau. Utau at least has a cohesive, if very Late 2000s, color scheme. DV just looks like a V2 Prototype. It makes V1 look fresh and modern, honestly.

    Ah, I should go snooping for VBs now that I've got a Chinese IP! I'm always looking to expand my arsenal.
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    patuk
    patuk
    I do wish it was more of it's own thing rather than Cevio and V4 love child but I could take or leave it. Functionality was on my mind in terms of moderness and DV definitely is more convenient to use, I love chn deepvocal hunts as much as you~ but it overall is more limited than UTAU and there are isntances where it actually makes things harder on me compared to utau.
    Krin
    Krin
    Okay I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought the community seemed a little stuck up LMAO but yeah a few months ago I downloaded it to try DV out and while I didn't run into any real issues with it, it still feels like you have so much more control over aspects of the voice in UTAU than you do in DV. however tbh I only used DV for like a max of ~ 2 weeks so idk how credible that opinion is
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    God that breath conversation in UO thread reminds me of one avid V5 hater I used to follow and looked up to before using vocaloid and to this day their number one complaint about V5 are the automatic breaths cuz they dont have V5 and they assume you cant use the breaths that come built into the vb anymore.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    wait sorry yall talking about entering breaths in v5 just mean like, inserting the wavs on the audio tracks right? unless im misunderstanding i didn think there was a way to use the built in breath function with the v5 editor...? if thats the case then that shows how little that knowledge is around, ive never read a single thing about doing that myself
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    patuk
    @morrysillusion Haha no worries! Some voicebanks come with breaths built into them and you can insert them by making a note and writing "br1-5" into the phonemes. However it's really an old practice most V2s and some V3s have it but it largerly died off and nowadays you're only bound to find it in V2 and V3 ports.

    edit: which again baffles me why it's such a big deal even if it were the case...cuz you could always just ise the wavs.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @patuk ah im aware of the br1-5 thing, so i know what you mean now lol. i didnt have any v3 or v2 banks for the longest time so i never even used the fuinction when i did have them! but yeah, ive always just thrown the wav files into my final mix. honestly its a little tedious, so i tend to not use breaths as much as i should lol.
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    Here's my plan for rising to fame: I make nsfw twitter account and become the next big thing....then......I drop my weeb vocal synth covers on my unsuspecting horny audience and-
    I cant believe there's literally official off vocal and a vsq already made for such a specific niche song ( it's from an abridged series ), I thought it was kind dumb idea that I only got cuz the vocalists sounded like specific vbs that I have but....I guess it was meant to be...
    yall please check out this cursed pizza ad i got on FB
    mobius017
    mobius017
    To be honest, I think the fries pizza...might be something that could actually grow on you? I mean, I like pizza, and I like fries, and those do look like the kind of fries I'd like (salty and moderately crispy). Imagining it...I think the flavor could be an acquired taste. But after eating, I think it would give me a stomachache. And I should interpret that as a warning sign my body's sending me to NOT EAT THE SALTY, GREASY PIZZA WITH THE FRENCH FRIES ON IT, IDIOT.

    @patuk: Where the heck are they selling these, anyway?
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    patuk
    patuk
    I'd def give it a try! But it most likely is that type of food you cna only have few bites of :clara_ani_lili:

    It was ad for some local pizza place here in Slovakia...hey I might even roder from them and see whether I judged book by it's cover :teto_lili:
    mobius017
    mobius017
    If you do, just invite about 50 or so friends over so you can each have a few bites and finish it between you! :ROFL:

    Thanks for letting us know where it's from!
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    I was sad and depressed, my wife left me, my dog died, my apartment got flooded and couldnt afford to fix it and became homeless...then I found out Yarao Kaneka has rolled Rs and-
    Literally I've only ever heard of Dex as this super beginner friendly and easy ( engloid ) vb or total nightmare and horrible to use with no inbetweens ujhygtfrd what's the truth?
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    GreenFantasy64
    GreenFantasy64
    I wanted Dex, but got that sweet deal of Dex & Daina thanks to peaches~
    And truthfully, I think I have been using Daina more than Dex. :daina_lili: Still love Dex, but I guess Daina is more easier or sweeter to me. And I seem to love using Len English more than Dex. Perhaps on how I edited Len's voice to suit my taste or I just really like using Len's voice compare to Dex on some songs. Even Len sounds better with Daina than Dex to me, sorry Dex. :lapis_lili:

    Sorry Dex, you are still a good boy in my eyes. :dex_lili:
    Älfa Dröttning
    Älfa Dröttning
    I generally like Dex more than Daina since I can’t find a good use for her tone, but I haven’t really used either of them much. Imo Cyman is better than Dex in terms of clarity, but they fit different genres, so it just depends on what you’re looking for. Dex is my definitely my favorite over Chris and Yohioloid, though.
    VocaloSynthesis
    VocaloSynthesis
    I got Dex a while ago and he's....not THAT bad imo (then again I mainly use SONiKA for English so, WHAT DO I KNOW-)

    Sometimes the voice is....kinda breathy? And very synthetic?

    I mean, I'll still use him, since he's a decent sounding bank, but he isn't the BEST English bank I have
    mlp:fim fandom experiences ft. 13 yo patuk:

    -getting shit on by adult fans for thinking a horse character is mean and not liking her.

    -being told by some adult pseudo intellectual to get better at english and see this as english lesson when asking of him to articulate his point more simply cuz I wasn't native eng speaker and yknow...at 13 not exactly fluent either
    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    And them, what about growing up ? Also, isn't it weird than probably among those people, some are usually the ones to label creepy any adult -still- intereted in children shows.... While some WERE really creepy in that community (because sorry, but ruling 34 poney whether real or not is ehhhhh) ? (and if NAtive was truly making you a great speaker, then explain me why spelling books exist and why some Native hav e a worse level than mine)
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    The downside of some moresampler flags is that they compress the voicebank to the point that the benefits of it are outweight by the compression...except for Adachi Rei who is so compressed sounding by default that those downsides are non-existent and she only can benefit from them lol
    I'm just so dissapointed in Cevio AI...I think the switch to AI was the right choice for it but I wish they did more to modernize it: 8 years and we still don't even get to manipulate breathiness and only in like...what? past year or two we got to edit the gender parameter dinamically, managing tracks is still as clunky and inconvenient as ever and it's still the most hideous ancient-looking editor on the market and honestly needs V5-level overhaul ( hate or love V5 and how it functions, that's different conversation, it's still objectively the best looking Vocaloid editor ).

    And most importantly....the whole crew NEEDS to sit down and address the elephant in the room which is 👏 the 👏 awful 👏 engine 👏 noise 👏. It's the number one criticism regarding Cevio and the most off putting aspect of it and I am surprised they're not making it the number one priority.
    patuk
    patuk
    ^^THIS, it's the same old Cevio but AI edition and that's so dissappointing, I remember when they were still working on it and it was so mysterious and hyped up....
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    Gonna have to concur that CeVIO AI has been disappointing so far, especially since the engine noise from the OG CeVIO still hasn't been fixed, so now Yukari just has its noise going on with her VBm which is super disappointing if you're used to her Vocaloid bank.

    At this point, I'm really worried about how IA will turn out on CeVIO, especially since 1st Place seems to want to ditch everything that made her interesting as a Vocaloid, including her light but mature tone.
    patuk
    patuk
    At least Yukari is all around such a bad voicebank with significant issues people have no reason to jump to her LQ Cevio vb :/

    And her japanese is finally coming to Cevio iirc correct? I am honestly.....very curious as to how it'll turn out....
    I took on the challenge of tuning Adachi Rei too haha. I don't fault her for being robotic, muffled and all that haha that's like...her whole point and I'm challenging myself and really pushing her and that's on me but damn...I think I get how people who try tuning Sonika feel now loool
    This is somewhat related to a status I made earlier but not really, am I the only one who's kinda iffed out about people putting "super realistic" or "sings just like a human!" in the titles of their covers as of late?
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