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  • Y'know? Making Songman scream things like "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL FUCKING GET, YOU MOTHERFUCKING SHIT!" has been oddly therapeutic. It's like... it's the same thing I wanna say to customers every time they complain about the quality of a product or, worse, a job (or worse yet, a job I did for them). And the more I tweak it, the more raw and agonized he sounds, and it's like "Honestly, same."

    Ah, I went into this expecting to just do a little bit of lighthearted experimentation of which nothing much would come, but this may be the most fun I've had working on a cover in a while.
    I remembered while on call with Patuk that, back in February or so, I got my hands on the VSQx for that one Ilem song where Yanhe goes ape-shit and murders everyone while Tianyi blames it on the fact that she forgot to take her medicine (a horrible aesop, sure, but a bop nonetheless); I wanted to cover it, but Haiyi was the only Mandarin bank I could use, as I have little hope of figuring out CVVChinese and Deepvocal is, well, Deepvocal.

    Well, guess who now has not only Haiyi, but Cangqiong, Aiko, and Muxin?

    (I'm using Cangqiong because she and Haiyi create a very nice parallel to Yanhe and Tianyi. I'm so happy~)
    For Christmas, my maternal grandmother got me a gift card to a grocery store, making me promise I’d only spend it on gas for my car.

    I know I’m officially an adult because I was so overjoyed I teared up a little.

    From here on out, I join the ranks of my cousins and older brother: all of my gifts will be work- or utility-related, alongside Aunt Suzie’s traditional rummage sale gifts (which everyone receives from the age of five and older anyway). It’s bittersweet, but hey, I’m finally making enough to treat myself to the things I want, so I’ll call it fair.
    I'm an idiot. Remember me mentioning that Velocity doesn't work when Air is cranked up? I was trying to extend an ending consonant that's followed by a vowel. Of course nothing I did would make it work. So I replaced "Up" with "Cup," at which point Velocity worked perfectly, et voila! Songman now screams "Get the fuck up, wake the fuck up" with appropriate oomph.

    In other words, my new method of creating harsh vocals in-editor works just as well as Charsiesis while also being easier to fine-tune, and I'm SO happy.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Thanks peaches!

    Interesting! The writeup on the Vocaloid Wiki makes it sound like VEL makes all consonants shorter, so it at least makes it seem like it would affect any consonant in the note. But it also mentions what sounds like what you were saying about moving the start of a note much earlier, maybe even overlapping the preceding note.

    From: Using the Parameters

    VEL (Velocity)
    Velocity determines how quickly the singers pronounces the note/word, thus influencing consonant trailing and consonant duration. Higher velocities result in shorter consonants and subjectively affects the attack of the lyric[1][2]. This parameters affects strongly the fricatives and affricates, like the "s" and "f" sounds. Unlike the other parameters, its value is adjusted through a series of individual bars per note instead of a continuous curve; a trait carried from the old 'Note Velocity' parameter.

    In VOCALOID2, large adjustments produced insignificant changes, so usually people didn't adjust this value very much. However since VOCALOID3 and onwards, this parameter indeed affects significantly the consonant length, making critical adjust it for achieve a correct pronunciation, emphasis or attack.

    As it affects the consonant length, it can move the beginning of a note closer to, and sometimes even so that it overlaps, the preceding note. In the case of plosives this can sometimes result in an almost silent preparatory interval prior to sounding of the actual consonant.

    As said before, the Velocity parameters work differently across VOCALOID and VOCALOID2 (in V1, it manipulated the volume of the note), so it's important take note of this if you ever attempt to export a VSQ file into a VOCALOID MIDI file.

    Does this all mean that VEL really only affects an initial consonant, and what you did was basically move the "c" in "cup" to overlap with the preceding "fuck" and thereby make the "ck" sound like it had come earlier?
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    Exactly! Velocity affects when the next note sounds off, for the most part, so if the next note starts with a vowel the effect will be borderline nonexistent, even if the preceding note ends in a consonant. It’s a little touchy, but with a few work-arounds you can get past its limitations fairly simply!
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Thank you peaches! Understanding that will help with tuning!
    The new BokuMono game hits the Switch in March and I am ready! I've already chosen who I'm going after my first go-round and everything. (Bridgette, for now; none of the guys strike me as stand-out, but then again, Ford was my absolute last-place choice before I played 3oT, and look where we are now.)

    I'm a little nervous... 3oT's widely considered the best game in the series' modern era, and, to some, the best game since the OG FoMT, so Olive Town has a lot to live up to. But same-sex marriage is returning from the FoMT remake, and the graphics and designs are gorgeous, a nice blend of modern and classic BokuMono... I have high hopes for it!

    And, as a Christmas present from me to me, I'll be preordering it next paycheck. I can't wait!!
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    Mmmmmmmmm Bridgette is literally just Ellen from the first game, right down to the little P-Chan look-alike, and it makes me so happy. I love Ellen, and she's tied with Nina for my favorite bachelorette from the OG game... for that matter, Lihn reminds me of a shier Nina. Hhhhhhhhhhhhh all the girls are so good
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    I'm a little disheartened that it was rated E... that makes it the first game in the series since XSeed picked up the translations that's not rated E10, and I fear that means it's going to be Natsume-levels of tame. (We're talking rebranding alcohol to "soda" or "juice"-levels of tame. Natsume also removed one of Gill's lines about wanting to keep you in his basement, but like, that one's more understandable.) I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
    Mika
    Mika
    I'm hyped too! Only sad that the 2D portraits are gone now, they were one of my favorite things. Idk, they just have more charm than staring at the 3D faces in my opinion. From the looks alone I think I will go for Bridgette, Reina or Jack 👀
    You know that feeling when you remember a song you haven’t listened to since high school, realize it’d be PERFECT for Songman, then throw yourself back down the MLP:FiM rabbit hole to dig it up, only to discover the guy who made the song never released any kind of instrumental for it, making it one of his few songs without instrumentals? And now you can’t sleep because “It FEELS LIKE I FELL ASLEEEEEEEP, and WOKE UP in a NIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTMARE” keeps repeating on a loop in your head? And you STILL don’t have a good song to cover with Songman?

    It’s a rough feeling.
    I've spent all day working on a spur-of-the-moment cover that I've already got everything laid out for, minus the tuning and some of the harmonies... and damn, I just. Don't get it. I don't know how to make the choruses stand out. They sound so singular and lonely after the verses, but if I try adding anything else, the editor registers it as too loud and I'm met with those annoying bursts of static every time it decides the sections clash. But if I make it any quieter, it'll suffer what every single one of my covers suffer from: being too damn quiet.

    And it's a loud song, so I can't just make parts quiet. It's all gotta be loud, or it's all gonna be quiet.

    Hhhhhhhhh how do people do it? How are people good at music?
    Krin
    Krin
    I'm def not the best person to be taking mixing advice from but couldn't you try rasing the volume of the quiet parts up with automation? That's the only thing I can think of but I wouldn't know how to fix the static issues ;;
    Fourth Ray Beauty is quickly climbing the ranks to join Peach and Lily as one of my favorite skincare brands. I LOVE their Dew It mist and face milks (a blend of Matcha and Oat holds me over on those drier nights), and I just started using their AM to the PM cleanser... it is LUXURIOUS. It has that lovely texture that Neutrogena's PHA gel cleanser has, with a more fruity smell and less overexfoliating acid. I'm gonna see about picking up one of their moisturizers!
    Me: "I just want this song to have a good amount of volume so people don't have to crank their sound all the way up just to hear these covers."

    Literally any program I use: "Best I can do is loud-ass bursts of static at any volume above a whisper."
    A *kicks in the door*
    NO *rips shirt open*
    NE *punches Former President Donald J Trump in the face*

    DATTE DATTE KAAAAAAAMISAMA MATTE MATTE IIIIIIIIIIMA BO-KU-RA! AAAAAA-HAAAAAAAA NEEEEEEE! MICHIYUUUKUUUUUUU TOCHUUUU-UUU!
    I finally downloaded Amiguru Train, and... holy crap. It’s ADORABLE. I can’t stop smiling while playing it :lapis_ani_lili:
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    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    Also, the song that plays is SO well-tuned! I really like it.
    There needs to be a service online, where you pay someone in China a few bucks and they hunt down the very specific off-vocal you're desperately trying to find. I know for a damn FACT this one's easy to find with all the covers of it on Bili, but China's love of websites that can't really be accessed outside of the country or without a Chinese phone number or ID...
    It may be a tad ambitious, but I wanna have my next cover up by tomorrow evening! I'm gonna polish up what I have of this Cangqiong cover. My confidence in finishing the rest is presently shot, but I'm still proud of what I have and wanna show it off. And who knows? Maybe one day I'll finish the whole thing!
    I learned something important this weekend: sometimes, when life gives you lemons, ya just gotta join a cult of murderous Swedish pagans and let them stuff your boyfriend into a bear carcass as part of a ritual sacrifice.

    It all seems so clear now.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Did this come on sometime after the pro cornhole TV show? You surely must have access to the most batcrap crazy cable channels known to man....

    This must've been some kind of "Ancient Religions" show on Discovery Channel, right?
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    I wish movies like this came on TV. Nah, Patuk and I have been watching Midsommar! Zoom crashed and went offline during the last five minutes, but like... unless some drastic twist happens in those five minutes, that's the gist of the ending.
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    Its okay Nanao saved them all.
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