CeVIO Yuzuki Yukari Rei for CeVIO AI

lIlI · Jan 15, 2021

I realised we didn't have a thread for her yet:

Yuzuki Yukari is recieving a singing voicebank for CeVIO AI: Announcement

Voice provider: Chihiro Ishiguro
Illustrator: Juu Ayakura

Purchase links

Release date: Jan 29, 2021
Purchase options: Package ver., DL ver. (editor set) Price: ￥18,800 (after tax)
Limited bonus item: acrylic stand
Standalone voice bank available in February 2021

___ · Jan 15, 2021

oof that Cevio engine noise really shows in those lows and mids, she sounds worse than I thought.

peaches2217 · Jan 15, 2021

I love that third song!! But... yeah, it’s hardly different from CeVIO 7, engine noise-wise. Nothing much has improved.

uncreepy · Jan 15, 2021

My favorite demo is the 1st one and I think her new design grew on me so I am used to it now.

For the engine noise thing, they did say in a DTM Station interview that they had to balance speed with quality (because otherwise it would take hours to render 1 song), so I guess it can't be helped.

ikaroll · Jan 15, 2021

I don’t really see a problem with the engine noise, but i guess its just me being used to background filter noise in stuff

I kinda(?) like her design, but it seems a bit extravagant (a trend I’ve noticed coughmikuntcough) esp when compared to her Vocaloid design

Overall, I’m interested in Yukari’s CeVIO

peaches2217 · Jan 15, 2021

I don’t think the engine noise in and of itself is a problem, it’s just... not worth $200 to me, when it’s barely an improvement over the old engine. I wish her the best, nonetheless!

Nezuh · Jan 16, 2021

Well, I don't know if it's worth 200USD, but I'm pretty sure it's Cevio AI's highest quality voicebank so far

And this is just my opinion, but based on these demos, I think it's yukari's most realistic vb so far too

YOYo_MAMA · Jan 16, 2021

I just waiting to see how independent producers use Yukari Rei, I hope they fully utilize the software to it's full potential without corporate intervention or just the lazy method of plug and play. I quite like the 3rd and latest demo, it sounds like they put more effort on it than the previous ones.
At least for me

KingPapillon · Jan 17, 2021

As someone who has used Yukari in V4, what immediately strikes me listening to Yukari Rei, especially on the third demo posted, is how stable and consistent her tone is now. In Vocaloid, you can get great results through tuning, but its really a struggle. You have to constantly fight against her pitchy, overly sharp, and breathy voicebank that doesn't handle manipulation well. In Cevio, you have the new engine noise present, but her high notes have never sounded better than here I think. There are certain extremely subtle traits in Chihiro's voice which I can hear in Rei now, which I previously couldn't in her past Vocaloid releases. The major setback I think is just the engine noise itself, other than that, I think its a good thing that they are keeping Yukari alive by trying to move her to a platform that actually has a future in voicebank development. Currently, I am on the fence of either preordering her, or waiting until c flower.

Twillby · Jan 17, 2021

uncreepy said:
For the engine noise thing, they did say in a DTM Station interview that they had to balance speed with quality (because otherwise it would take hours to render 1 song), so I guess it can't be helped.

Honestly I wish they’d give us the option to choose between speed and quality like SynthV AI. Personally I would be willing to wait that long if it would mean the quality is significantly better.

That being said I don’t think she sounds bad here, but I’m just not as into Yukari as I once was to get too excited about it

KingPapillon · Jan 18, 2021

I don't remember where I read it, but I heard that Yukari Rei was to receive a speaking Cevio AI eventually at some point, am I just remembering wrong?

___ · Jan 18, 2021

KingPapillon said:
I don't remember where I read it, but I heard that Yukari Rei was to receive a speaking Cevio AI eventually at some point, am I just remembering wrong?

I only ever saw it on Cevio wiki and nowhere else and I couldn't find any sources on this :/ and the ones they listed didn't mention it. So I'm really curious about it too....does anyone have any info

cuz it is very plausible scenario but I haven't seen any evidence yet.

KingPapillon · Jan 18, 2021

patuk said:
I only ever saw it on Cevio wiki and nowhere else and I couldn't find any sources on this :/ and the ones they listed didn't mention it. So I'm really curious about it too....does anyone have any info cuz it is very plausible scenario but I haven't seen any evidence yet.

Super weird... I also think its strange how all of the Cevio AIs announced so far are all either exclusively song vbs or talking vbs and not a single one is getting both yet. (except maybe sasara? idk)

Rylitah · Jan 21, 2021

There's been a lot of talk/discussion on whether Yukari CeVIO is just a port of her Vocaloid bank or not, but there's actually confirmation that she isn't.

One of the questions asked if her VP, Chihiro Ishiguro, was involved, and the response was yes, they had her coming into the studio to record 15-20 songs per week starting in late June, for a total of 100 songs. The reason she sounds so much like Yukari's Vocaloid is because they used her Vocaloid bank as a singing reference and had Chihiro replicate it as much as she could to keep "the feeling of Yukari" - this was intentional. There's a lot more that they did and it's all written in the article, but that's the gist of it.

This article was actually published almost a month ago, but the reason I read it now is because it was linked from this article about Kiritan's CeVIO bank which says that she's being released by AHS while Yukari's CeVIO is being released by Techno-Speech instead, and I was like "huh, that's weird." Didn't really find an answer for why that is (honestly I forgot that AHS hasn't talked about Yukari's CeVIO like....... at all, and they're not even selling it on their site), but I think what I did find was honestly more important.

(There's no mention of her getting a talk bank, though. I think people just kind of assumed, especially during the initial announcement since I thought the same thing as well, and then no one ever realized/got around to fixing what was already written on the wiki.)

lIlI · Jan 21, 2021

I guess that speaks to how realistic Vocaloid Yukari is! Personally I'm sad they didn't add more of the nuances of Chihiro's voice - for me this would have added value to the software - but I understand the desire to have a port that's faithful to the voice people already know. I'm interested to find out what differences experienced Yukari users find between the two voicebanks.

___ · Jan 21, 2021

Ah, I'm really glad we got that out of the way! I'm happy that isn't the case, that's so much better! But since that is.....the case....well there's bit of an irony.....in using this new technology just to perfectly emulate an already existing product with no significant changes. I know why is that, but it's still ironical and I don't like it.

Rylitah said:
this article about Kiritan's CeVIO bank which says that she's being released by AHS while Yukari's CeVIO is being released by Techno-Speech instead, and I was like "huh, that's weird." Didn't really find an answer for why that is (honestly I forgot that AHS hasn't talked about Yukari's CeVIO like....... at all, and they're not even selling it on their site)

I've been thinking about this, is she only gonna be on Kitamura? Are we aware of any other sites she might be on :marie_ork_lili:

If that's the only one so far she'll be a pain to get for westerners.

Rylitah · Jan 21, 2021

patuk said:
I've been thinking about this, is she only gonna be on Kitamura? Are we aware of any other sites she might be on If that's the only one so far she'll be a pain to get for westerners.

She's available for purchase on Amazon JP as well! Haven't seen any other purchase options aside from that, though.

___ · Jan 21, 2021

Cool! Ty for the info!

Rylitah · Jan 21, 2021

They've ran out of acrylic stands that's supposed to come with preordering her since she's selling better than expected. Any orders from here on out won't come with one. (This tweet is the notice that they're running out, but on her actual product page there's a notice saying it's all gone)

KingPapillon · Jan 21, 2021

Rylitah said:
They've ran out of acrylic stands that's supposed to come with preordering her since she's selling better than expected. Any orders from here on out won't come with one. (This tweet is the notice that they're running out, but on her actual product page there's a notice saying it's all gone)

RIFP, I was /just/ about to place my preorder. Welp, at least there's no rush for me now.

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