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morrysillusion
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  • im not sure how i manage to be out of the loop on every drama ever but i guess thats what happens when i literally dont check social media for anything fandom related discussions huh. this week of dramas has been flying by me i have no idea whats going on anymore lol

    and thats ok. im just gonna consume my news posts that lack any kind of biased commentary
    curious what twitter recommends to me.... tweets from the japanese vocaloid side of twitter on the topic of like... popular artists who use miku all the time? whether or not they have or will use someone other than miku?

    always interesting to get a peek into the topics of of the fandom that i wouldnt really look at, mostly because its not in english. i think the topic spawned due to pinnochiop's new song using rin
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    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    its a glimpse into a side of the fandom that i never touch. i see it in passing and im like "ah, ok" and i keep walking
    ikaroll
    ikaroll
    I mean, I guess if you use one vocal enough you’ll be known for using it, and when you use a different one, people get upset??? This fandom is weird, man
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i cant tell if the conversations were really against or for using miku or not (i was missing much context as i only clicked through reccomended tweets and replies)-- i kinda felt the tweets i saw were more about feeling if the artist is a 'capable' artist because they are willing to use another vocaloid. additionally saw some good points about how the popular artists being referred to (in this acse, pinocchiop and later deco27) obviously get attention for using miku, so it makes sense they wont deviate, or havent had the same success when they do deviate. though there were some less tasteful tweets insulting the artists for not trying to use another vocaloid....

    so it was less about these people being upset they use a different voice, it was actually judging them for not trying to use other voices at all.
    i do get a lil sad abt the physical vocas i sold a bit ago lol but i had to .... had to do it to them. rip fukase whomstt i did not use that boy at all and the amount of ppl who wanted him just made it worth it in the end. (tho i really just loved the look of his physical box)
    oh hell yesss rulu song with vy1 and flower... a very rare duet combo that i love (and made me sad i sold vy1 again lol)
    wanted to that...meme.... im not rly a twitter person at all in terms of vocaloid so.
    also 'characters' i dont rly consider just character i more so just threw done my faves in terms of character & voice


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    not really saying this to create discussion about anyone specific but just having some thoughts on the vocaloid music i used to listen to. kind of downer thoughts lol but im not trying to be sad, just thinking about how much has changed since i was 16. ive always loved the english vocaloid scene, and the years back with lots of 'small' budding artists, i pretty much purely listened to english artists in vocaloid and flower originals are the only japanese artists i seek out. i remember all the artists i used to listen to a lot and now i dont listen to them at all, not talking about New songs but just replaying in general. used to play the hell outta a lot of 'popular' eng artists 4-5 years ago now but ive since just not played most of them at all and sadly its bc the way they act (and sometimes their fans) have kinda soured their music. more so the artists themselves and not the fans as much tbh, but sometimes they come hand in hand it seems. its a shame how some people present themselves on the internet and i do not doubt that popularity affected it. i think the only english voca artist i still listen too (bc i also just love his sound is oddeeo but even so i see myself listening to vocaloid less and less (it also doesnt help i primarily use spotify and what i do listen to on YT isnt on spotify)

    this isnt rly a sad moment for me, just a calm acceptance that ive really moved on in a lot of ways and i want to be okay with that. i like vocal synths, i like the tech. theyre cool! but ive definitely moved away from the community/fandom a ton in the last few years. and thats fine.
    fun fact i wont like or enjoy your work at all if the first sentence of your description just describes how bad it is apparently. i highly suggest you dont put yourself down when you present your works to other people....
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    this doesnt mean u have to absolutely LOVE everything you make. but if you got to a job interview would you constantly self depricate? tell them youre bad at the job youre applying for? of course not. stop putting yourself down for creativity you supposedly do for fun. its ok that not everything is perfect. but i can promise you people do not like hearing you shit on your own work before they even get to see it
    already listening to sweet ann and i get the vibe she will be a good duet voice for avanna.... shes not my fave in all situations but man i really needed some voice that could compliment avanna and i think she may be the one!
    man remember a bit ago i mentioned some kid was trying to get me to hand over my Shadow/Sonic utaus by bribing me with Vivi??? im still seeing them around and its so weird bc theyre bragging about having 'physical boxes' for Vivi and like. yeah there was in fact artwork for her. and you just....printed it on paper haphazardly cut it out to put it in a box, literally printer paper. ok. and i am seeing people going nuts for this. i am so confused....like for one idk why people are looking this thinking it means anything??? i could print out whoever the heck i want and throw them on the box. this kid is really trying to get so much attention for a unreleased vocaloid they cant even use (this person literally bragged to me about having vivi files but 'oh well i cant show you because i can use the dev editor actually' which is odd to say bc its didnt help convince me they were telling the truth lol)

    but its also a shame people keeping dragging Vivi up because theres like. nothing to do with it, if you have it. you cant (really) use it at all. while online talk about vivi isnt very surface level it seems the 'underground' part of vocaloid fans who pirate and pass around dead voicebanks are still obsessed with acquiring her and i do not understand why.
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    @morryillusion the reason you can't find anything about her anymore is bc iirc they announced her through Twitter (deleted) and VO (no longer exists) Vocaloid Wiki simply doesn't seem to bother a lot of these "announced with no backing followed by disappearing" vocaloids, probably because there's simply nothing to document.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah i think i saw one discussion thread on vocaloid wikia about her when she got announced but it didnt go much further than that it seems. i noticed as well a ton of deleted tweets. it is probably best there isnt much on her because it (hopefully) means less people will try to seek her out and any other leaked things
    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    Yeah the only hint found on the Vocaloid wikia is when you go to the cancelled/misc/private projects list (in which you can also find projects that were suposed to be done on vocaloid and ended up on other engines such as H/Hippi and REV)

    Then once somebody posted a re-uploaded leak of her demo song on Sc but not sure if it's safe to share it here otl


    Edit: Ah, seems it got deleted too, but it was up around two months or so ago... Anyway, to add to the story she sounded like a popular UTAU since they shared the same VA
    before i head off for a hair cut, heres a preview of the VCV 2020 bank i got otod finally. (oto done by MangoSiRyan12). end part is the render with no edits, using tn_fnds


    im always bad at figuring out what genre goes with my utaus lol. so if anyone has cover suggestions i can try this bank with, let me know!! im finding slower songs are good but some not as high range fast songs can be decent.
    oh hell yes the oto commission for one of my older banks is done... its the one i recorded a year ago. i think ill release it when i record my new banks again because the main point of getting this other one oto'd even tho its not great, is that i started T so i want to record a new bank whenever my voice is stable after some months.
    unlisting one of my miku meme covers once and for all.... catharsis. you had a good run at almost 800k views but its time.
    while i am done making covers for people, i dont think i plan to give up covers completely because i just enjoy using vocaloid. but i really just wanna make whatever i want to. i have multiple covers of english songs with instrumentals i was making myself and yet i have avoided them for years because i made like Two covers of eng songs w my own instrumentals and they are my least loved videos (even the mitski cover i did with avanna and lugged a CRT TV up to an office basement for a cool music video lmao. i thought the video was cool!). but taking off the pressure of "needing" to make videos or showing others, i kinda look forward to finishing a few of those
    while ive basically decided to stop buying vocaloids i do think about getting sweet ann... i have much more use for engloids and shes easily available/got expensive. and while easily available i do often wonder if the digital purchase page will someday vanish due to how old she is and how the company doesnt do....much anymore
    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    This is why I jumped on TONIo and this year I've jumped on Prima and Sonika as V2 start getting threatened (looking at Piko who's already run out) and yeah, go grab Sweet ann because while Zero-G remains somehow active, PowerFx on the other hand........ =<
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah considering some V3s are suddenly not available (forever sad i didnt snag flower V3 physical earlier) it is a shock they stay up! but its a good point, they will likely not be around for ever, so i might as well get on them now!
    Scarlet Illusion
    Scarlet Illusion
    I forgot there's a risk of the V2s running out of serials soon! Glad I grabbed all of CFM's original V2s while I could! (I still wouldn't mind bagging Kagamine ACT2 + both their and Miku's appends, but they're not a huge priority since I've seen plenty of'em floating around!)
    i was digging through old art and found something i forgot about, some outfit design for a flower cover i never made kinda bc i didnt have the skill to tune it back then and it sounded very bad. but i still think this (albiet, old) design was fun.... i never finished the MV and i did post what i had but i removed it eventually.

    this art is. fucking. five years old now wtf
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