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  • I made a document analyzing Kaitos default designs if anyone wants to read it!
    Nokone Miku
    Nokone Miku
    Like you said, the V1 Kaito box art is definitely meant to be a dynamic caricature rather than a portrait design. It's meant to convey the idea of him giving an energetic performance. Blue + orange was a very popular color combination in visual design around that time.

    Interesting observations on V3's pose, colors, and proportions. I hadn't previously taken the time to look at Project Sekai Kaito's design before.

    On first glance Kaito has this really "cool" look to him. But that impression is soon overwhelmed by his absolute teddy bear inner nature.

    It's funny how much of each of their voice provider's personality comes through for the CFM characters now. I think it's unintentional and subliminal, but has just gotten amplified over a long period of time. I think: the desired voice type > voice actor/provider selection process > character design > fan interpretation > video game depictions > interviews/behind-the-scenes media > influences further fan depictions > influences further game depictions > etc. It all just forms this slow feedback loop that has shaped the characters despite no conscious attempt to create a canonical form of them.
    Cerāgi <º•
    Cerāgi <º•
    I took the time to read it and really enjoyed it! It made me see Kaito V1’s design in a completely different way tbh, couldn’t have thought about the amount of attention that went into it.(and I really liked all the ongoing comparisons too, I kinda felt a certain “game” going on between keeping Kaito’s energetic vibes while proposing new conception around the same character with his later designs, if that makes sense!)
    after attempting to draw v4 flower multiple times I think her design sucks now. what was the reason for the outfit to be that complicated. what. was. the. reason.
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    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah theres a reason every time i draw "v4" flower its just her hair style i throw her in a tank top and jeans lol
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    I thought Flower's V3 design was supposed to be harder to draw?
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @Blue Of Mind honestly speaking from my perspective as an artist- v3's is quite simple- wide black dress, a vest and longer hair. v4's seems simple at first but its got SO many nonsensical little details. the vest is multilayered (theres a "jakcet vest", and two lower vests??) which also has scattered rips, she has something wrapped around her waist idk what, its asymmetrical at her arms and legs (which is present on v3 to some extent but v4 pushes the complexity again with stripes and other bits), theres random straps every where.... its not The most complex but its more complex in theory than v3.

    the thing thats apparent to me is that it feels impossible to actually simplify all these details on the v4 design. if i take off two of those vests or the rips, or the straps, it does feel like its missing something. where as with v3, it is super easy to simplify. its a frilly black dress, a vest, some boots... and pigtails. its still easy to see its her v3 design and it doesnt feel like its lacking imo, where if i tried that with v4, id look at it and know something was off because it was missing all the random little details
    I kind of wish I hadn't played the beta build of crispys vocaloid fangame before the full version released but I'm still gonna play it again
    Vocaloid fans will get super angry if someone who doesn't call themselves a fan makes a joke about Miku but then participate in trends around other franchises all the time, like Yakuza and it makes me laugh every time. This...is kind of a consequence of living in an interconnected world and using social media. People who never would know about Vocaloid hear about it through osmosis, just like we do with other things. I mean Vocaloid culture as we know it started on the internet! Why is there so much worry over people being fake fans
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    mahalisyarifuddin
    mahalisyarifuddin
    Thanks meme culture
    Scarlet Illusion
    Scarlet Illusion
    Right? I don’t really understand the mentality of fake fans vs. real fans in some communities (including vocal synth). I guess it’s just another form of elitism/“other girls” type shenanigans—they want to think they’re somehow better because they know more/aren’t like the majority. :gackpo_lili:
    Vocal synths especially is silly since they’re just instruments/software—it’d be like getting angry if someone who doesn’t normally listen to the piano makes a joke about the piano, haha.:clara_ani_lili:
    ever know those producers with extremely distinct styles that you could know it's them from 5 seconds of one song but you cant quite explain WHY because you dont know music theory
    IO+
    IO+
    I think, maybe because the signature of the sound and tonality of the song like effect he/she like to use, overall sound in general.
    Example is the niki song. Dense, loud, and full of energy, but not feels so rushing with classic repetitive x2 chorus.
    niki: Close to you
    Intro: E, F# major, D#m7, G#m7
    Verse : E, F# major, G#m
    Chorus: E, F#major, D#m7, G#m7, F#major
    E, F#major, D#m, F#major
    (x2)
    E, F#, B
    ______
    niki: Error
    Three main chords is B minor, A, G
    Verse: Bm, A, G
    Chorus: G, A, Bm, and then ends on D

    as you can see, the song structure is simple as the chord.
    some highly detail are small to non existence, only who pay attention will notice.
    I am honestly insecure about enjoying English vocaloid music. Will have to do something about that soon
    just my luck to finally start learning how to use vocaloid well and be happy with the results I get from it....and everyone who takes vocal synths seriously has started to dump on it and say synth v is better
    Vocaloid is so fun because there are no expectations but it's so awful because if you actually keep up with some new stuff you're in a tiny corner of the community only populated by annoying people
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