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It has less to do with objectivity and more so what you're looking for in vocal synths.

I can't really resent people wanting something more automated and realistic out of the box, but it's reached a point that when someone acclaimed for their tuning, like Kyaami, released her cover, it sounded like something any other person could've made and that is to me, as you've put it, is uninspiring.

Similarly, my friend who isn't deep into vocal synths proclaimed that he's impressed by the realism but on the other hand, was underwhelmed by the lack of character.

SynthV is significantly worse at retaining characteristic voice and the texture of it, often, the voicebank doesn't end up standing on it's own outside of it's vp, which's been a hot debate over in the chinese fandom proclaiming how Stardust Infinity is too much like Chalili and not like herself ( which only supports Vsingers' claim they've made and their choice to release for V5 still ).

I'll be honest in saying that I've been failing to relate to a lot of the excitement in the community when out of the box realism is not what I prioritize in my vocal synths, rather, a voice that's bursting with character that I can mold into whatever I want.

"when someone acclaimed for their tuning, like Kyaami, released her cover, it sounded like something any other person could've made and that is to me, as you've put it, is uninspiring."

@patuk You've said exactly what I didn't know how to put into words. XD

i was thinking about this the other night as i used Solaria. theres pros and cons to "Standard" (be it synth v, or voices like vocaloid) and AI. they bring different things to the table entirely. i have been positive on the development of AI because i just think the advancements are neat and super cool to hear- it truly is incredible how good they sound. but i realized they also become very... very specific to their own voices. like, they capture real essense of what that singer sings like, what they sing for, and it makes it hard to mold then in the way you would a "flat" standard voice like from vocaloid. in which vocaloid is way more of a blank slate.

and thats good, and bad. both are good and bad. there is something good in AI which is accepting the ease of use. the lack of need to tune. hardcore tuners and vocaloid fans often dislike the idea because it takes something away, but the reality is, the realism and lack of need to tune is much more appealing to the casual users, often times that actual song producers who plan to make money off things. but still, cons being how specific voices like Solaria are, to where you cant shift them from what they are. vocaloid has is advantages in that i do feel i can more easily bend the voice to what i want, but at the same time i do get annoyed by the process of tuning and what is often a hard thing to achieve unless i know all the ways to do it.

but even now with solaria, we're still very early into the development of AI, mostly english. and Synth V is the only one to have really gotten into it at this point. i wouldnt say im hopeless about what will come- theres definitely things to be wary about as we see things come up. personally i dont care about characters unlike many, and i understand why it does matter to ppl... but id say we're far from losing anything like vocaloid, and there is still an obvious place for characters and standard banks. and honestly w the idol side of overseas banks only becoming more popular who knows what companies will dive into over here. basically; we're in such early stages of change, which is exciting and anxiety inducing!! the techn is advancing is crazy ways but i dont feel like the original intention of characters with voices will truly go away and we're more likely to see different attempts with the realism alongside characters once the scene becomes more stable

@morrysillusion I agree with you wholeheartedly, just would like to clear myself up as in, when I mention "character" i moreso mean the uniqueness and the personality of said voice rather than the mascot represeting it, cant speak for Ronny tho.