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morrysillusion
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  • at first i wasnt sure about some vocal modes for some voices sounding kinda similar (airy vs soft, or vague ones like clear/open). buuut the mixing and matching can certain bring a lot more to the table, and some of their subtle differences become a lot more clear when you do that. that is to say i quite like solaria's "passionate" vocal mode, and mixing it with clear or solid is p nice.
    as much as i am hype for more vocal modes, i do keep wanting there to be some kinda cross-use with a parameter to fade between them easily, since its a little annoying and also jarring of a change to go from super strong power mode to a very soft whisper mode...
    if you havent used the free VST instruments from Spitfire, the LABS series, just a reminder they exist and release new instruments... today they release a new piano! i always get hype to see pianos from them, they sound so gorgeous.
    UGH i keep forgetting i am planning to remake the textures on Xed's MMD model before i release it again but i keep forgetting!! i kinda need to because i changed up his design to have much darker skin....
    oh god i just rendered a clip of solaria after having it on ryo and i guess... it didnt rerender properly because her voice keeps swapping back to ryo in the middle of words lmao
    honestly at this point i cant see myself buying a standard vb for Synth V ever-- the only one i have is eleanor's first bank which i got before Pro even came out. and im not saying standard banks are bad, but.... idk i find a hard time being appealed by them when theyre mostly ending up non-english, and AI banks have cross language now. its interesting how it feels like AI banks are becoming the default for synth v...? mostly with the numerous opinions i see still disliking them. but ever since cross language, its made me actually want to buy banks i typically wouldnt due to language.

    i sure got used to making japanese voices in vocaloid sing english, but i pretty much only contained myself to v Flower because it still felt like a waste to hope id like the voice enough after painstakingly work them into singing english.... now, i dont have to worry about it. better yet, i dont have to worry about the language at all! because they can still fluently sing japanese, or hell even chinese.
    its cool hearing oddeeo use solaria since im so used to all his songs using avanna (and sometimes gumi)- which she always sounds great in regardless of the high range his songs use (theres something charming about her robotic-ness, mostly with his style of music) but its very welcomed hearing a voice like solaria in his songs too, reaching that range.... wonder if he'll use her more in the future
    i am quite sure i keep unsubbing from emvoice emails. but i still keep getting them.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    I think most email services let you create rules to automatically file/delete/do other stuff with emails. Or you can probably mark them as spam. So if their unsub feature doesn't work, you're not stuck :) .
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah ill probably do that lol, ive been getting emails for a few years now and i just always forget because theyre so far in between...
    i do have to keep wondering and worrying if ci flower will get moe-ified in a sense with her voice, kind of like what we saw with IA (and in some sense, kafu, but she was changed for other reasons. still, Cevio has a record of these cuter voice types now)-- flower's popularity certainly picked up a lot over time but i and im sure others have seen the more and more popular usage of her with a higher Gen. cant deny that people make her higher pitched and cuter a lot, even the most popular flower artists who i like, do this with every song....
    all i can hope for at this point is maybe her just sounding like her talk bank- its a nice balance of her boyish tone but a little more lax and neutral. idk if they would dare keep up her "rock" angle in a cevio bank, mostly with her design not hinting at it at all. but if she lost her boyish voice it just... wouldnt really be right. even if people use her with high gen, i think her appeal is still partially on her being a less typically femme voice.
    i am going to release one final vb for Xed since i had one fully oto'd vcv bank i did in 2020, but i just need to....power through and make the web page for my utau downloads... i got the demo and all that done just. no web page lol
    this cover with feng yi... very good
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    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    oh and this cover too. loving feng yi right now
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    its true to say a lot of the dreamtonics voices feel similar and i think they do, but i still they they also all have just enough of their own tone too. i think they only sound similar beccause dreamtonics isnts trying to make "character" voices that are heavily voice acted... theyre supposed to sound natural and neutral. i do think the issue means i see no need to buy them But their quality and various strengths are still worth it
    not to compare voices in a way that undermines what is unique about them but Something about feng yi's tone was feeling so familiar as i used her, and i realized it was reminding me of vy1 a bit. which is a compliment, i sometimes get sad i sold vy1 so... now i can relive her in feng yi lol
    idk why i always forget about moresampler when testing my utau- i think i grew to not using it bc i was mostly too lazy to type moresampler.exe into both boxes when i opened ustand how i was too lazy to remember what alkl the special flags actually did haha... and i usually disliked the engine noise it created. but i think its similarities to synth v's sounds and how i have grown to like synth v more are suddenly making me like moresampler more??? and now that im not lazy im realizing how interesting all the flags actually are to getting the right sound. and it sounds pretty good with my newest banks...hm.
    this was my last/most recent vcv attempt (only with a moresampler oto) that i recorded before i decided i didnt want to go through the effort of recording a vcv bank lol. it was supposed to be softer on purpose but i had some weird quality issues compared to other banks for some reason
    pico
    pico
    This is cool! I do really like the overall quality of the voice, not in the UTAU sense but in the sense of the voice itself. Keep up the good work!
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    thanks, i appreciate hearing that!! i have been recording various unreleased banks over the last few years so im excited to really get back on track and work on a bank that i plan to release
    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    The tone is very pleasing~
    is eleanor ai going to get the uhh vocal modes? whatever theyre called? idk why i forgot about her but every other AI release from dreamtonics is getting them, i know shes technically developed by volor so... idk what theyre up to but i wouldve expected something by now...? at least an idea if they were going to implement it at all, which i havent heard
    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    Aw man, I hope so!!
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    All AIs will get vocal modes down the line, dreamtonic vbs were the 1st to get them cuz theyre in-house vbs, now dreamtonics is in contact with other companies and they're in the works.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    thats makes sense yeah, since ele isnt developed by dreamtonics. though ive already heard from a few existing companies with AI banks stating they will, and just havent heard anything specific from Volar (unless i missed it!)
    if im gonna stick with CV going forward, i may look into deepvocal too? maybe? at least as i understood you could kinda make whatever vb in deepvocal so long as you have a reclist right? i havent touched that software since before it become like utau lol
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    deepvocal is exclusively CVVC-based, you can theoretically port your CVs but it's not recommended, and no, DV is more limiting in languages than UTAU, it's primary limitation being no support for consonant clusters, you can work around it but it will always have inferior results than if you were to do it in UTAU
    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    ^ And if you still wanna try out, you gotta record A LOT due to the indie issue (hence why I'm getting so slow with Mylène and having to rework on her list x_x"' However I did hear a nice spanish bank but that's it, whether English or other complex languages, it's limiting them)
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    ahh i see, thats what i was thinking but i have seen some other not-conventional VB types in deepvocal, so i wasnt entirely sure how it functioned. i may look into it some day out of curiuousity but yeah i have always gotten the vibe that its quite limiting and definitely not as easy to use (mostly when it first came out), but wasn't sure how the VB structure worked since i have seen some people attempt different think with it.
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