Hi everyone! I'm wondering if anyone has been able to get Japanese Vocaloid 3 or 4 voice banks, or the multilingual Vocaloid 6 banks, to produce a rolled R that would be suitable for Italian or church Latin. I know that the Spanish Vocaloids have this phoneme, but I don't have them. Prima and Tonio also do, and I do have them, but I'm not of a mind to get them out of retirement at this late date. I do a lot of work using choirs with several voices in a section, and I'm starting on a piece by Haydn that will have the very commonplace text "Christe eleison." I'd really love to get "Chrrrrriste eleison," rather than the single flip from a Japanese [4' i] syllable. So far I've tried stringing together a few [4 M] or [4 M_0] syllables, but that doesn't seem to work well in Vocaloid 3 or 4. I've also tried multiple [4 0] syllables in Vocaloid 6, without much luck there either. I'm assuming there's little I can do with English phonemes, given our highly rhotic Rs, but I haven't tried any Chinese phonemes yet.
Just wondering if anyone has yet cracked the code on this, although it's certainly not the end of the world if I can't solve this problem.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: My AI overlord, Microsoft Copilot, suggested this thread. I wish it had done so several days ago. The YouTube video creator seems to be using old-school Gakupo V2 in the V3 Editor. I hadn't thought of what he suggested, but the key seems to be first of all to put three or four repeated phonemes in one syllable. I found in the Vocaloid 4 Editor that three of four [4' e] phonemes worked well with Luka V4X, and three or four [4] phonemes worked better for Fukase. It seems it's best to just keep trying things. This doesn't seem to work in Vocaloid 6 though.
Resource - Rolled/Trilled R's with Japanese Vocaloids | VocaVerse Network
Just wondering if anyone has yet cracked the code on this, although it's certainly not the end of the world if I can't solve this problem.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: My AI overlord, Microsoft Copilot, suggested this thread. I wish it had done so several days ago. The YouTube video creator seems to be using old-school Gakupo V2 in the V3 Editor. I hadn't thought of what he suggested, but the key seems to be first of all to put three or four repeated phonemes in one syllable. I found in the Vocaloid 4 Editor that three of four [4' e] phonemes worked well with Luka V4X, and three or four [4] phonemes worked better for Fukase. It seems it's best to just keep trying things. This doesn't seem to work in Vocaloid 6 though.
Resource - Rolled/Trilled R's with Japanese Vocaloids | VocaVerse Network
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