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Other Music distribution service BIG UP! allows international vocal synth producers to monetize their work

SeleDreams

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Jul 31, 2019
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Yeah, I guess it's best for me to publish my work, with an original character or logo or something, using another service, because I'm not planning on only using Miku and Gumi.
You also can use multiple services. nothing prevents you from posting one song with big up, another with routenote. etc
 
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SeleDreams

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Jul 31, 2019
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It seems Big Up reviewed their terms of service and addes some changes which are not that great :
- Free plan users will have a limit of one submission per month.
- If a submission makes less than 1000 plays in a year, it might get removed.

My guess is that their current free model was unsustainable so they added these limitations
 

JikyuVox

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It seems Big Up reviewed their terms of service and addes some changes which are not that great :
- Free plan users will have a limit of one submission per month.
- If a submission makes less than 1000 plays in a year, it might get removed.

My guess is that their current free model was unsustainable so they added these limitations
Rats! :confused:
Are there any alternative distributors that allow Vocaloid and other Vocal Synths?
 

Vector

Passionate Fan
Mar 6, 2022
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Rats! :confused:
Are there any alternative distributors that allow Vocaloid and other Vocal Synths?
You can use any music distributor (DistroKid, LANDR, TuneCore, etc) to distribute vocal synth music, so long as you don't put the name of the voice bank in the metadata or use their likeness in album art.

Using the voice itself is fine...because obviously someone would be laughed out of town if they tried selling music tools with a license forbidding their use to distribute music lol. But the name and likeness are trademark territory and, for example, Miku merchandise is big business, so Crypton is incentivized to look at that on a case by case basis.

The two paths, in the Crypton example, to having a character on the album cover and metadata would be to contact them and ask (unlikely for people outside of Japan) or being signed by their Karent record label. That's why you might notice that 4BLOOD by KIRA has no mentions of Miku on streaming services, but Highlight (a song commissioned for Miku Expo) does. One's through KIRA's distributor and the other was published by Crypton.

Also, Crypton basically considers anything on YouTube, NicoNico, or other social media platforms to be "doujin activity" and their stance is that it benefits them so do what you want. Fan art away and say the song is featuring Luka or Miku or whatever. They know they have their golden goose because of people making videos with Miku in them.

Personally, I use LANDR. It's $24/year for unlimited releases (and they don't delist them if you stop paying, unlike DistroKid) and they don't take any portion of the royalties. They will also, for a per-song fee, arrange the paperwork for you for licenses for cover songs. (i.e. an original performance of a song...sampling existing recordings is a very different legal area.)
 
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Alphonse

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Mar 13, 2021
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Using the voice itself is fine...because obviously someone would be laughed out of town if they tried selling music tools with a license forbidding their use to distribute music lol.
That's literally Fukase and Stardust if you don't get their explicit permission.
 
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Vector

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Mar 6, 2022
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That's literally Fukase and Stardust if you don't get their explicit permission.
I will have to proceed to laugh at them, I guess. I find the concept more silly than subscriptions for VSTs. I wouldn't take a piano seriously either if the manufacturer claimed the timbre required separate licensing. 🙃
 
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SeleDreams

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Jul 31, 2019
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I will have to proceed to laugh at them, I guess. I find the concept more silly than subscriptions for VSTs. I wouldn't take a piano seriously either if the manufacturer claimed the timbre required separate licensing. 🙃
there's also miku NT where you can't use the voice alone thanks to a EULA rabbit hole.

Like technically there's nothing against using the voice commercially.... BUT they have a term that forces to mention the use of hatsune miku. and from there you end up bound by the terms of the Piapro license

it's some EULA trickery
 
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Alphonse

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Mar 13, 2021
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I will have to proceed to laugh at them, I guess. I find the concept more silly than subscriptions for VSTs. I wouldn't take a piano seriously either if the manufacturer claimed the timbre required separate licensing. 🙃
I was so mad about this because who sells virtual instruments you're not allowed to use commercially? Like, what did I buy it for then?
 

Grzesiek11

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I wonder if this is even legally enforceable. There are limits to EULAs after all.

I doubt anybody is going to sue Crypton over this though, so we'll never know. Most will play it safe and either comply with the terms, or use voicebanks other than NT.
 

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