VOCALOID Betterloid - VOCALOID 5 & 6 Unofficial Plugin System
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Sorry to bother with the nudge, but have there been any update in development? I recently got v6 with Nurse Robo and I'm worried to downgrade the version in worries that she will stop working. I understand being busy with studies, and feel free to take your time, I just wanna know if there has been anything :3
So, I was able to port betterloid to the latest version of vocaloid.
Its current ported plugins :
- Core plugin (the core plugin allowing betterloid to function)
- Background plugin
- No autotune on V6 plugin
- Waveform color plugin (plugin that adjusts the waveform behind notes to follow the track color)
There's still work left to get the JobPlugins plugin to work
It can still be a bit buggy with some plugins but i think i reached feature parity with the original Betterloid 2 on the latest version of Vocaloid6.
Of course it still works on vocaloid5 as well.
I'll probably release a beta soon
I updated the initial post with the new alpha that works on 6.13.2
compared to before, I included all the plugins from the get go with betterloid to simplify install. so by default it comes with :
- Betterloid
- Background plugin
- Waveform color plugin (matches the waveform behind notes to the track color)
- Jobplugins plugin
- No V6 autotune plugin (disables the autotune from v6 by setting all deviation settings to 0)
you can easily disable a plugin by just deleting it from the Plugins folder
compared to before, I included all the plugins from the get go with betterloid to simplify install. so by default it comes with :
- Betterloid
- Background plugin
- Waveform color plugin (matches the waveform behind notes to the track color)
- Jobplugins plugin
- No V6 autotune plugin (disables the autotune from v6 by setting all deviation settings to 0)
you can easily disable a plugin by just deleting it from the Plugins folder
I'm right now focusing on doing some reorganization of how betterloid works to make it easier to manage. For instance, I'm moving the configuration files from the Background plugin to the Documents/Betterloid folder rather than the Vocaloid6/5 install dir. it would avoid the issue of having to open vocaloid as administrator the first time after installing betterloid so that it can create the config files.
i also plan to try to make the job plugin support more stable
i also plan to try to make the job plugin support more stable
Not only plugin errors should no longer crash the whole editor, but now it actually shows the exact plugin errors that happen. which should make debugging way easier.
New update posted. This update adds animated GIF background support to Betterloid.
Betterloid version 15-09-2026-r3 released.
Changes :
- Improvements to BackgroundPlugin for ease of use.
BackgroundPlugin now handles typos and errors inside the json without crashing vocaloid. It also indicates clearly if a value is incorrect and shows correct example values.
- Fix of reported BPM value to job plugins
Vocaloid6 was reporting incorrect BPM values to job plugins such as Vocalistener. This issue has been fixed.
Changes :
- Improvements to BackgroundPlugin for ease of use.
BackgroundPlugin now handles typos and errors inside the json without crashing vocaloid. It also indicates clearly if a value is incorrect and shows correct example values.
- Fix of reported BPM value to job plugins
Vocaloid6 was reporting incorrect BPM values to job plugins such as Vocalistener. This issue has been fixed.
Betterloid version 15-09-2026-r5 released.
This build mostly fixes bugs related to positioning of backgrounds. And makes the background plugin much more stable.
I also made a tutorial explaining more in detail how to work with backgrounds, and showing how flexible the background plugin actually is
vocaverse.network
This build mostly fixes bugs related to positioning of backgrounds. And makes the background plugin much more stable.
I also made a tutorial explaining more in detail how to work with backgrounds, and showing how flexible the background plugin actually is
Tutorial - Setting up custom backgrounds on Vocaloid5 and Vocaloid6 using Betterloid
This tutorial focuses on teaching how to make use of the Background plugin for Betterloid, which allows to use custom backgrounds, including animated GIFs on VOCALOID5 and VOCALOID6. First of all, you will need to install Betterloid itself...
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New update : 16-09-2026-r1 released.
This version adds support for job plugins using VSSetPitchSnapMode, which makes the job plugin Electronica Tune now compatible with Betterloid
This version adds support for job plugins using VSSetPitchSnapMode, which makes the job plugin Electronica Tune now compatible with Betterloid
I was able to confirm Betterloid still works normally on Vocaloid 6.13.3.
If installing the update, you'll need to ensure to replace the newtonsoft.json.dll file by the one from the betterloid zip as it gets restored to the original by the vocaloid updater
If installing the update, you'll need to ensure to replace the newtonsoft.json.dll file by the one from the betterloid zip as it gets restored to the original by the vocaloid updater
I was thinking, what about adding user dictionary support too? Some dictionaries, like the one from Ruby, can’t be used anymore in VOCALOID 5/6, and then you could just can use English phonemes to make one, you could add support for all the current VOCALOID languages, Japanese, English, Korean, Chinese, and Spanish, and if writing the dictionaries directly in the editor like in V4 isn’t possible, maybe just create them outside the editor and then load those dictionaries into the editor, this would be especially useful for Chinese and Korean because it would let you create a dictionary for writing in Hangul for Korean or Hanzi for Chinese, or even make a dictionary that lets you write in a completely different language based on the voicebank's phonemes, like using a custom Thai dictionary with a Japanese voicebank
I think I kinda made something like this a while ago but i haven't updated it so it likely doesn't work on the new version, but i could look into updating it.
Though the main reason I have not updated is is because I felt like its use lost interest with the job plugin support.
when it comes to direct integration of custom dictionaries right into V6's dictionary handling... I wouldn't say it's "impossible" but i'd say it would be fairly difficult at least.
The main issue is that vocaloid 5 and 6 don't handle the dictionary at the editor level, they handle it at the engine level. when you type lyrics and it gets the possible phonemes for it, Vocaloid 6 directly requests the lists of phonemes from the C/C++ synthesis engine, which is inaccessible to me due to being natively compiled. All I can do is likely intercept calls to it in order to try to load alternative code paths when it tries to grab the phonemes, but it would be a fairly demanding task i think to implement
The main issue is that vocaloid 5 and 6 don't handle the dictionary at the editor level, they handle it at the engine level. when you type lyrics and it gets the possible phonemes for it, Vocaloid 6 directly requests the lists of phonemes from the C/C++ synthesis engine, which is inaccessible to me due to being natively compiled. All I can do is likely intercept calls to it in order to try to load alternative code paths when it tries to grab the phonemes, but it would be a fairly demanding task i think to implement
Mmm, that makes sense. Maybe a solution for the suggested phonemes when writing could be to simply not select any of the suggestions and let the engine fall back to the dictionary instead, and If the user doesn't select a suggestion and the word isn't in the dictionary, it could just default to the first phonemes suggestion, or maybe make a shortcut key to apply a dictionary after writing the lyrics, like you load the dictionary to the engine and it only runs if the shortcut key is pressed, tho, I feel that even like this, it would be hard to implement. I made a small udc manager a month ago to read udc files, but it works just like a phoneme conversion plugin
at the very least the ability to trigger a specific job plugin when a shortcut key is pressed is one thing that's planned, and applying a specific dictionary based on shortcut key is also likely the easiest way to go about it as it would avoid conflicting with vocaloid's core implementation