i know about Kagamine ACT1, but what about other vocaloids with TERRIBLE or low quality voicebanks?
Worst (technical talking) VOCALOIDs?
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Arsloid's Soft and Bright VBs, because they weren't designed to be traditional additional VBs at all - they were described as "extended libraries" around the time he was announced, which turned out to be semi-recorded VBs only meant to be used with V4's XSY. And when I say "semi-recorded", I mean when you try to use Soft and Bright on their own, you discover Arsloid's missing a ton of sounds and phonemes, so he ends up sounding worse than even the V1s.
oh god that’s bad. I knew they were half-baked, but I thought they were better that that.
The Vocaloid Wiki has samples of VBs on specific product pages, and even though it's just Arsloid singing "Do re mi~", you can still tell how bad his Bright and Soft VBs are if you click the tabs for them. His base VB is completely fine, however.
So the Kagamine Act1's were actually honestly decent. If you listen to the comparisons between Act1 and Act2, Act2 is actually usually more muffled. And they're not even always smoother. Act1 had the Japanese idol style where you would purposefully articulate the start of vowels and stuff, but you could put [\h] between two choppy notes to make them sound better. That trick, paired with their clearer tone, makes me like Act1 better honestly.
Sonika isn't really any more buggy than any other English Vocaloid of her era, but she has bad sound quality and a few phonemes that really do sound odd -- infamously, there's almost as if there was a Skype sound in the background of one of them. She's a beast, but you can learn your way around her as well
Tonio has always been kind of well known for his bug, where any note at D3 or above with a [@] phoneme would crash the editor. It must be corrupted, I guess. Vocaloid acts like you've used up all of its memory and then some and it panics.
Sonika isn't really any more buggy than any other English Vocaloid of her era, but she has bad sound quality and a few phonemes that really do sound odd -- infamously, there's almost as if there was a Skype sound in the background of one of them. She's a beast, but you can learn your way around her as well
Tonio has always been kind of well known for his bug, where any note at D3 or above with a [@] phoneme would crash the editor. It must be corrupted, I guess. Vocaloid acts like you've used up all of its memory and then some and it panics.
Is that why Miku infamously had choppy transitions in her V2, such as "e-i" instead of "ei"? She was pretty good quality but just had that to deal with basically
Oh, TBH? I'm not sure. I'd have to look and see if I can find anything about that, but I don't think I heard any of that. But you can find even clips of Asami Shimoda singing in that "choppy" style from back then, so it does feel intentional for the Kagamines, at least to me.
That really might just be an accident with Miku
That really might just be an accident with Miku
Has anyone ever opened up his files and examined that recording? I wonder if that has any clues.
I always assumed the early V2s in particular were choppy because nobody had really got to grips with V2 development yet. If you listen to VY2 V2 (the last V2 release), he sounds really fluid compared to say, Miku V2. (I still love Miku V2 tho, choppy phonemes and all. It's ironic how Miku NT is still not up to par with her V2, despite Crypton trying to take her tone back to V2.)Oh, TBH? I'm not sure. I'd have to look and see if I can find anything about that, but I don't think I heard any of that. But you can find even clips of Asami Shimoda singing in that "choppy" style from back then, so it does feel intentional for the Kagamines, at least to me.
That really might just be an accident with Miku
Technically speaking, all voicebanks is generally well recorded in a controlled environment (studio) with top-the-shelf equipment and performed by professional standards.
I assume that you mean glitch during use or "engine noise" as westener like to call it. I don't think call a voicebanks that have some Quirks in it as a poor quality or worst VBs is fair imo.
For me. Any VBs that heavily reliance on gimmicks to shine (EVEC is an example failure) or any VBs that force users to handle the voicebank on a higher complexity level is considered a poorly design. I know that some VBs have some several quality issues in it but, in my experience. Every VBs has it's own issues, not all of them is perfect. Even up to date AI VBs... they all have some issues.
I assume that you mean glitch during use or "engine noise" as westener like to call it. I don't think call a voicebanks that have some Quirks in it as a poor quality or worst VBs is fair imo.
For me. Any VBs that heavily reliance on gimmicks to shine (EVEC is an example failure) or any VBs that force users to handle the voicebank on a higher complexity level is considered a poorly design. I know that some VBs have some several quality issues in it but, in my experience. Every VBs has it's own issues, not all of them is perfect. Even up to date AI VBs... they all have some issues.
Rin and Len's English banks sounds like they have their mouths filled with cotton balls.
To be honest, I've always thought Flower had the same problem, but I have heard some songs where she's mixed well enough that you can't hear it so much.
Daina sounds like that to me. Unless it's just how some producers mix her, she ALWAYS sounds like she's got something in her mouth while singing.