Again, the primary concern we have is not about the presentation! And it’s also not that we’re being critical about Maghni or “preying on its downfall” because it isn’t east asian (?), it’s about a lot of the production’s aspects seeming a little questionable. I get that you’re excited about it and that’s great! Like I’ve said, not trying to bash anyone’s interest, you SHOULD be excited if this interests you because Maghni’s dev team delivering on their promises would be massive for the vsynth community!! But I certainly wouldn’t call the critiques of this project (a) using legal faux pas in their campagin as lili explained, especially when they’re getting their money through both a governmental startup program and crowdfunding, so they really should know more about that, (b) having a timeline that seems pretty unreasonable, and (c) having a budget that is vague in that we know there’s extra money but not what the actual budget of this project is OR what “accelerating production” actually means, entitled, unfounded, or overly critical. It paints a picture of inexperience that should not happen here for the exact reason you pointed out: this project’s been in the works and these people should know what they’re doing, since they’re established.hiiii im new here but tbh what they did just sounds like standard marketing that literally every commercial does. they didn't bash or talk bad about the other vocal synth projects or voices and only used them as an example so... I don't really see a need to harp on it. It falls under fair use. Even if it was a faux pas, I care more about what they are making and trying to create for musicians, not anything silly like fake concern over a png image with sloppy motion blur that appeared for all of 2 seconds next to big-breasted circusP.
At the end of the day this is a product and vocatone and whoever else is trying to acquire additional funding so they can give us said product right? It's amateur in some places and could be better, duh, but we could at least wait for them to have the finances to be held to the standard of now-rich ahs-backed dreamtonics and millionaire company yamaha. This is nowhere close to previous shoddy commercial attempts. they have a literal engine on-par with the others, a flashy ui, and are more transparent and open than literally any other. I'd rather complain about missed deadlines and failed promises when they occur, rather than assume the worst over a mistake or simple misunderstanding. it isn't like they threw this together overnight. from what I read this software has been in the works for over 5+ years. this level of professionalism from a team that has been working in the shadows for years to finally reveal their project is to be expected.
I've been lurking here for like a week now and all these back and forths just seems weirdly entitled. not to be rude, but let's just try and be normal about cool things coming up instead of being so negative and expecting immediate failure and low key praying on the downfall of any project that isn't east asian (which this community has a long and horrible history of doing). at least wait til they actually screw up!! Like man, they can't breathe without someone voicing a made up concern in their head here
all that being said
if there were any actual concerns, im p sure the dev team is super public and linked their socials. do what people do @ eclipsed sounds and write a community document with questions and concerns or hell, message the guy who was in here last week answering questions. I have a few that I want to ask and plan to do so in a few days. I think we just gotta give them a chánce.
eng isn't my first language so apologies if I came off rude :/ just passionate!!!
Also, I’m posting here BECAUSE Cocoa has responded to concerns in this thread recently and changes have been made. It’s also a bit easier since forums are meant for discussion and there’s no word limits or algorithm like on X or IG.
You go ahead! Be excited! Enjoy it, I am too, I’m eagerly awaiting more samples because I’m genuinely interested to see the final product. Language synthesis for some of the advertised languages in the Indiegogo would be literally revolutionary for the scene and an AI synthesis model with that kind of capability would be too. But that’s exactly why the elements I described concern me, and I’d like to place my concerns on the table now, while we’re still in the early days. I’m not sure why that’s a problem.
(edit: fixed SEVERAL grammar errors, jeez i can’t type today!!)
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