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morrysillusion

morrysillusion

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    i just got my physical of solaria and asterian!! :D
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    WOW i did not realize the boxes were... big boxes! and solaria's disc too looks so nice! i am just. so blown away by the quality. i think no matter people's taste for their voice themselves, eclipse sounds has been fantastic w communication and now even the quality of the merch/physical products they deliver. genuinely all i expected was a small plastic box with a peice of paper in it as most physical boxes go these days.... but no! a well designed disc, plastic character stands, nicely printed cards, a small manual.... and of course that tote bag lol. its the first tote i have every owned!
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    hm....trying to figure out if i am doing something wrong w the realpitch plugin for synth v or...if its broken,... didnt wanna have to revert to an old version but i may have to.....
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    morrysillusion
    i cant tell if its just the pitch file or if its the version of synth v, ill have to test. it imports the textgrid file fine but the pitch file crashes it :/ but this is only w one song and i havent done this in a while so, hopefully its just this one specifically
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    as hype as i am to use ci flower i am worried itll take me a while to really finish a cover bc this will be my first time using cevio in ANY form @[email protected] no clue how it works in detail
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    pico
    pico
    You got this!! I honestly think a cursory look through the docs (or voisona's docs) is pretty much all you need to know. It was mentioned in an earlier status, but the most common thing new users don't know/forget is not setting the key.
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    resident cevio stan here and also I and peaches finally got our hands on her so if you're curious hmu

    but I'd say she's pretty good beginner cevio vb so u should be good!
    AddictiveCUL (Add)
    AddictiveCUL (Add)
    As someone who worked with utau and vocaloid, I can say probably it will take somedays to get used with how to tune in Cevio for you (Specially if Cevio is too different from any other synth u used), but don't worry about that and I'm pretty sure u will eventually slay.
    morrysillusion
    weird thinking i may be posting a load of the new flower original songs to showcase under "cevio" instead? i guess thats where theyll go now...? gynoid is only mentioned on the site as the 'official flower homepage' and like. no where else. so i guess they own her as a character still. but maybe for confusion sake putting all the ci flower stuff under cevio...makes more sense. idk. mods can move it i guess. i hadnt specified "V" in flower for old posts so i feel it is confusing. the naming convention she has already tho (v flower, ci flower) do help that confusion but. old posts dont have that in the name.
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    while its something we will likely never know i am veryyy curious as to when ci flower actually started development. if we are going by the original announcement and yukari's release, that would have been ages ago. but man it took a long ass time for anything to finally come too so, maybe it never even started back then. i can only theorize and make assumptions but i almost feel like there mustve been some development gynoid couldnt continue due to funds (iirc this was stated by someone but not sure if verified), and was taken over fully by the cevio team. flower is a popular character so i think regardless of what occured behind the scenes, she was going to be picked up in some form and finished.
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    Oh yeah. Should be said I will very likely buy Ci flower soon. I mean, I'm still collecting flower no matter what cuz I love her (God please hand me v3 box some day) and I have heard some lovely covers w that lower Gen sound i prefer. Uh if there's any special thing to do to get physical boxes let me know. I didn't check if there were boxes tbh... (I'm out of town rn)

    Also this cover i heard this morning was 👌

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    gosh i still wish i could like... get po-uta for ya know. not the high price is it for the engine and voice lol.... i havent seen much usage of them yet, but i do think its cool for them to go for a more stylized voice that is still kind of robotic. sure i love how human we can get voices these days, but vocsynth is still unique for its format, and its nice to still see that being utilized w a voice like that. we cant sit in a position where any voice like that is seen as "bad" because its not smooth or whatever. having it done with intention isnt a bad thing!
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    Yeah! I know, right? I'm on synth fandom not for AI voices. AI voices are usually so... normal! The good thing about realistic tuning is how hard it is to do, but now that anyone can do with just 1 click of a button using an AI voicebank it lost it's magic. That's why I say most of SynthesizerV tunning is uninspiring and the motive why I started to appreciate not realistic voices more.

    People should chill about the way Po-Uta sounds because he is such a good VB! T^T Hope to buy him someday, but I still have to buy Arsloid (My fav male vb so far) and, maybe, Mayu.
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    man id love to have a voice like po uta but i just cannot reason with myself about buying v6 even with a discount. i will be honest i am still quite annoyed i even bought v5 purely because i didnt use it much at all (i had little time to, little reason to utilize it for covers, etc)-- and that *doesnt* have to do with whether or not i think its good (bc i do like it in general as a software). i just wish i hadnt spent that money and had so little time to find a use it, esp for v5 to have very little voice releases through its life span :/ and v6 was such an unexpected drop too it didnt really help with realizing i couldve wanted it up to that point. sitting here wanting to use it but its just hard to decide that esp when theres no angle of where i am producing original songs or making enough covers that it matters. and i actually really like the v6 UI and functions more than v5 so in that regard too i wish i just had it instead, theyre still so similar in terms of engine that it still feels irrlevant to own two when v5 is technically any different other than new voice releases.
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    like i still really really find it to be an issue how little voices released for V5 over its life span that started in 2018. like buying a $300 software getting its base voices, ok thats cool. but sitting around for multiple years and getting 4-ish voices outside of that and yamaha's own rereleases of cyva/cyma/vy1/vy2.... with pretty much no talks of new voices (and then very last minute drops of tianyi yanhe and ling that almost feel irrelevant to being for v5 due to that) is really really bad from my perspective as a consumer who spent so much on it.

    like i cant not express how frustrating that was. to pay all that money. sure, i got some of those new yamaha voices with it. sure, i DO have other voices from previous vocaloid versions but. what was truly the point of v5's release? other than an updated UI and a few new functions? they were good, i liked them. but were we really never meant to have more releases utilizing this new engine....? and at the very least. i would hope to hear more from yamaha during all this time. it is not something i wish i spent money on in the end. this isnt cheap you know
    WyndReed
    WyndReed
    I really feel the same way as you. I bought V5 in 2020 shortly before it was discounted only to be too sick to get much use out of it. Now V6 has released with a better interface and the discounted upgrade doesn’t come with Cubase, so I’m just miffed at Yamaha rn.(I would really like to try V4.5 that works only with Cubase)
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    if v5 at least had more voice banks come out, i would find value in owning it still after all this time but... yeah, like, there is nothing i can specifically do with it that i couldnt just do in v6, and v6 seems to be on a better track even more so with its special AI capabilities. so its really not fun knowing i spent money on v5 at all :/
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    im hearing some great covers w the new use of parameters for vocal modes but i realized. i wonder how its translating for switching voices... cuz naturally it seems when you have the sliders up, and change voices, itll sometimes match them to other vocal modes from other banks. understandably its hard to match this esp with voices that have far less.

    but now i feel itll be a bit more annoying to open a file with parameters drawn in them and it like... doesnt appear at all for the other voice. i wonder if it may vanish if you switch between them? not sure if anyones seen this but. ill have to test and see how it all functions between voices. admittedly a hard thing to sort out i think i geuss that was the one plus to vocaloid very simple parameters for the XSY stuff in the end. but also very glad for synth v's update cuz this was my most wanted feature tbh
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    well, i have found out something i didnt totally expect. downloaded a file from ryu expecting the parameters to be used. ANd when i switch to Asterian (who would be the one id expect to translate to Solaria's vocal modes seamlessly) i saw this instead! It shows the parameters are like... put to the side, "inactive" and you can still see them in the window there but they arent ya know, being used on that voice.

    this is a cool solution actually. means i could open solaria's soft window and just recreate it for another voice's equivalent. while it may be annoying to consider doing its probably better than having synth v just *assume* what they think it matches with.

    vvn is having trouble upload my image so, heres a link

    it seems that if the vocal modes matches up with the *same* exactly name (natalie's Soft and solaria's Soft) it does register these parameters as the same, its the name difference.
    Maxi
    Maxi
    This script might help with this I think
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    morrysillusion
    @Maxi ah thats very cool, i will def take a look at that!
    morrysillusion
    the lack of marketing from Ci Flower is just so odd to me. like from my pov i feel theres been so little hype up for her to release? sure shes a popular character but in that case id expect... more to be coming leading up to her release ya know. voice teasers, demos, more tweets in general during the contest period, some promo art at all idk. the silence could be good but also very very bad lol.
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    out of curiosity and my importance of reaching out to voc synth companies (bc hey, seems Yamaha did catch my complaint about the note problem). i emailed dreamtonics to say "hey, can we get trials/lite banks of voices like ninezero?" they linked to their downloads of lite voices nd it me that like, they dont have any trials of ANY letter voices aside from Saki. which imo is ridiculous and not good? saki is admittedly "old" and even her quality is quite different from the newest letter voices. why isnt dreamtonics themself providing more lite banks of their own voices?? at least maybe one for each language? i responded that i felt this was a problem. and i also find it weird because obviously the one angle with "designless" voices like the Letter ones is they are to appeal to ~normal~ people, and in that list of lite voices Saki is the only one among the sea of anime character voices. wouldnt you wanna provide more trials to the people who would be turned off by the anime girls??? idk lol. so annoying, i want some trials/lite banks.
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    pico
    pico
    I can understand the move away from lite banks because they technically could misrepresent the products if lite bank usages get super popular, but I really would love for them to invest the resources into a trial system for their VBs. I can only see it doing good things for them. Plus, customers can figure out more easily which VB truly works for them, which feels kinda difficult right now, being honest.
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    I think Lites misrepresenting has already been an issue, if I recall people's takes on Anri correctly
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    oh yeah, i dont disagree the lite banks are misrepresenting, i honestly dont like them much at all due to that. though id still expect or hope if they wanted to move away from that, that theyd have some kind of alternate. an actual trial- its kind of annoying theres no real word on doing that- honestly i think theyd benefit more from trials? because people can keep lite voices on their synth forever, and use them forever! even if people are technically supposed to use them a certain way i feel like its also legally hard to prove if someone's using it for a variety of reason... overall not a great concept after some thinking. vocsynth having little trials has been a big issue for a while so i never get why theyre slow to consider these things and just make trials.
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    tbh it really does a lot to have well tuned demos as i think about dreamtonics... thats one compliment i can give to audiologie- they seem to have one tuner for every one? it keeps them consistent in quality and the tuning is good, it feels like something id hear from a typical cover artist in the fandom. ofc you can argue variety in tuning is good to hear, which is true, but its bad for some companies that just get...bad tuning.
    morrysillusion
    i def wanna hear 9z with some electronic rock and industrial rock more. this person just made a cover of a Pendulum song and its very good... (this song is like 12 years old btw so, very much the 2000s electronic rock)

    would love to cover an Orgy song with him, which would be interesting w that og singer's usually deeper tone...
    morrysillusion
    rip my signature line up of voices i own has too many emotes apparently.... kicking out the free voices that came with softwares to fit more. goodbye V5s
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