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  • not gonna answer much in the way of messages right now so sorry abt that! in the depths of house hunting and its very stressful again but i may be making some good progress this week
    just some flower thoughts most on her mysterious fate
    i think the thing that is on my mind most when it comes to "flower should be on [engine]!" or even "flower should still come out for cevio!" its not really that one place is better or worse. it would be neat if flower was on synth v and got all those new tools synth v has to offer- i would not at all expect it to happen tho, and even so it doesnt mean the engine is a good fit for her. but i cant agree at all that cevio would "fit" her, i like many others dont think cevio sounds good in many cases.... and sure, its likely to happen due to what was set up earlier, but it would still be a lack luster release from my perspective due to all the issues i have with cevio. all in all in kind of okay with her being in limbo because i dont really have a lot of hope for where ever her voice may pop up unless we get some huge miracle. and while its mostly theory, after the release of her Talk voice, i always got the idea that they were likely to change flower's intention a lot. i like her talk voice, but i wouldnt have been shocked if the cevio stuff came out and she was not the same exact kinda voice as before (in terms of being potentially more cutsey/losing all the 'rock' themes... i mean her talk design is alright but it is very very different).

    whenever i listen to flower content that really pushes the boundaries of her voice i kinda feel like im living in a very detached world from whatever could come next. i love her a lot and ill always love that we can keep using her as we please as it keeps that image of her alive. but theres something comfortable about the sorta standstill its come to instead of seeing whatever it was that was planned that could ultimately change a lot about her. havent heard anything notable from gynoid in a long time and while that is a little saddening im kinda...not of an opinion that i Need to see new flower stuff pop up any time soon.
    uhh does anyone know where that thread for like.. finding a vocaloid song you cant remember is? wanted to post there but i .... cant find it lol
    MagicalMiku
    MagicalMiku
    this? :seeu_ani_lili:
    boy, the variation of Circus's usage of Solaria is a treat. it is exactly what i want to hear in order to come to a decision on whather or not i will buy her, and im quite liking the japanese use of her voice too.
    man. i keep forgetting some of the vocaloids i *do* own bc i did sell like all my physicals, but in terms of digital? its not really possible to sell them unless you lower it below market price or theyre not available anymore. which is fine i have no issue holding onto the digital ones, but i just.. really dont use them ever. i probably forget i own Bruno the most. i do like his voice a lot tbh, but i have little use for him... oliver, miku eng, sonika, and maika are up on that list too- but i think my lack of usage for them all is more just about the fact i realized way later on that i was never really gonna have a use for them in my music. it was certainly fun when i was making covers but outside of that :/ i have no use for them.
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    TheStarPalace
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    feel that. I almost never use Nana eng but like. who would buy a digital copy of her for market price in 2022
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    If it helps, I know there's a Twitter where you can put them up for sale, so you can at least get some money back! It's like VocaDeals or something? I'm not really on Twitter, so if anyone can elaborate that would be amazing, I apologize, but I know you can at least get something from them.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i had posted about them a while back along with my physicals, but i think my physicals got more attention than whatever digital ones i was trying to sell so they were overshadowed and lost traction;; @peaches2217 but maybe ill post about them again now that i only have digital ones to focus on!
    the AI chinese options are still small but Man do they sound good in english. and its definitely making my next potential usage voice hard.... there arent many AI chinese banks but i do think a lotta the chinese banks in general are very high quality compared to some of the others on synth v and the way chinese works, i feel their english capabilities are just a little better than the japanese AI banks. wew. dreamtonics really did a lot w this update, its hard considering what kinda banks i want from the current selection as before i never would consider them due to language, because i only look for voices i feel i have a potential to consistently use with original works.
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    Prism
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    I know I'm like I would never bought a Chinese synth before the update. Like I looked at the medium 5 girls before and thought they were cool and high quality but too bad they are in Chinese and I don't know Chinese. It definitely has crossed the barrier if only they were easier to buy. I think the reason Chinese does English better is because there's just more phonetic data than Japanese. It will be interesting to hear the difference between Qingsu full ai and the medium 5 ai plus that were trained on their samples.
    part of me wants to create a thread for my utauloid bc i want incentive to like, start updating him. but also dont want to pressure myself by making a thread exist cuz i havent even redesigned him... i could prob take the thread slow and update it as real progress happens? maybe. keep the first post as the most up to date info and make new posts to update the design reveal and vb reveals....
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    Rylitah
    Rylitah
    I think you should go for it! It's nice to have a place to post updates and such even if you don't post in it super often. I have a thread for my own UTAU for that reason even though I haven't had much reason to post in it for a long time now, haha. But it'd be really cool to have the thread kinda like documenting your UTAU's progress from redesign to future releases!
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah i feel like i have no where to really share utau stuff so i just never do and thus never even have the motivation to make much progress haha. i do like documenting stuff and it does help me actually Make the thing so even if i dont use it super consistently its probably better than nothing!
    i wish the resources of making your own tts were more widely known/available, or at least options that were more available were catered towards ease of use. idk if anyone remembers/used lyrebird.ai before it completely changed and wiped all voices but, even something like that was nice to have even with its limits on being stuck to a website. it took no time at all to record and it did all the work ya know?

    im hoping making your own tts becomes more of a thing with stuff like coefont so that ease of use starts to be prioritized. its great theres some small software out there for english use but a lot of the time its not /easy/ to use and getting good results can be hard on your own. i think we're in a phase of early development with people realizing there may be a interest in it, so heres to hoping once the basis is down we'll maybe get some proper software with easy use for making your own tts.
    Prism
    Prism
    It's super easy to I made a tutorial on how to do a Taco Tron 2 bank it's easier than utau in my opinion if you need any help just message me
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i do plan on trying it at some point tho im not huge on it quality wise, but itd still be nice to see such a thing properly compiled into a software akin to the text to speech software we see for lots of japanese tts.

    iirc tacotron is only web based/on google collab? (or i wouldnt know how to run it otherwise) i really hope such python stuff gets compiled for offline usage as i feel thatll be an issue far in the future- i know some of that stuff can be run outside of google collab but that just goes back to the point of having an easy to use, compiled software
    Prism
    Prism
    there's a offline version but it needs a NVidia gpu
    still sitting here wondering if im gonna try and buy a chinese synth v or not... really wish they could make the digital purchases for them easier for non-chinese users... heres to hoping that changes with the cross language interest...? as much as i will follow the guides, still. hope the sites become more accessible for foreign users
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    Prism
    Prism
    They really need some kind of international shop for synth v that has all the synth Vs voice banks and editors dl in all currencies in one place because it is really hard to track it all down especially the Chinese banks. With them now being all crosslingual it is important have a storefront that offers them to everyone. I can see western music creators really being put off by the methods of purchasing synthV.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah, definitely- the one struggle of vocal synths is when theyre scattered around different places with no easy hub to access them. if youre new and not aware, its impossible to find unless you start to dig, and even so theres a huge percent of people who wont bother the moment they have to figure out a site thats not in their language. even if the main page redirected to other sites because they cant host them, that would be better than nothing
    Prism
    Prism
    I don't think non vocal synth enthusiast would even try it's too much of a trouble.
    its midnight so that means more Thoughts from me and for some reason im scrolling through my previous soundcloud account and man. surprised to realize even my last account ("morryv3") even has tracks all the way back to 5 years ago. really shows how much i was making stuff to need 3 new accounts from 2015 to 2016 and i slowed down immensely since then. understandably 2015-16 i was in highschool still and 2017 marked not being in high school lol.

    admittedly i removed a lot of smaller posts from my current SC since 2017, but even so my current accoutn spans 2017-present and is way less stuff. idk if id say im sad about that? im obviously happy w where i am now. but part of me wishes i was able to even feel like i had that same energy w vocaloid/covers in the sense that i wish i hadnt been run into the ground w it once i got caught up in making so many videos out of pressure. i think in reality the image i have looking back of all these cool fun covers wasnt void of issues- so its ok. im just looking back w a sense of nostalgia i wish i could have
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    regardless i listen to my own covers and videos A LOT idk if thats. weird? i consume my own content in general a lot- mostly writing and music. i just play it a lot sometimes. idk why. i guess its that vibe of what it reminds me looking back on, often in a muddy lense that is even better the more i go back because i am only taking what was good from it when i revisit it
    wew. boy. just finished writing a 7k word fic that i chipped away at for the last 2-3 weeks.... i like writing a lot too, and this is definitely the longest oneshot i have written in a while. even tho i know some people who write more, the way i handled writing this makes me really happy. because i realized i rush a lot of the creative work i do-- art, writing, tuning, etc... i rush it all the time.

    and writing it one that is technically the hardest to rush- bc doing it quickly means cutting out a lotta obvious content, so its one thing i am forced to take my time on. even so i may have fics i force to end a little too fast, or i feel myself getting bored with a scene bc i wanna jump to the next part. but i had a vision for this and i didnt want to ruin it, and with holidays and stuff to distract me along w other shit, i realized it was a nice break from all that and so i savored the moments where i had that inspiration and sat down to write.

    i really gotta get on the mindset that its ok to take my time and i end up with a product im much more happy with in general if i do. i gotta do it with art and tuning and editting really badly- bc i want to do those things but i just know its not gonna get me anywhere if i jus continue to rush it to completion. i know full well i have no reason to rush but it just become to automatic that the end is all that matters, not matter the process.
    i was recording a video for something today and i havent recorded anything in. a very long time. and its made me more apparent to how much my voice has changed on T since July 2021.... might record a quic CV utau just for the heck of it to really see the difference from my old utau. i hope to record utau stuff again but i cannot tell if i should wait a bit more for my voice to drop (it hasnt been cracking much luckily)
    the crashing of synth v is getting to me.... i may just throw down lyrics in vocaloid 4/5 as i find it to be the most efficient but i did like the convenience of just being able to put + in and hearing it (and the way it breaks up words by default is better). but admittedly i hate entering chunks of lyrics in synth v. itll be easier tweaking a few words in synth v after vocaloid, versus the random crash. backup or not, its obnoxious
    update to synthv crashing: for some reason auto tuning worked fine if i did the version where you can tweak the settings? alright
    oh neat synth v keeps crashing when i try to generate auto tuning
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yeah... starting to become quite an annoyance. at least this time it said i had a backup (is that a new feature? definitely needed that before...)
    Prism
    Prism
    Have you updated to the latest version it now auto saves
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @Prism yeah im on the latest version- was the auto saving perhaps what got me the backup notifcation? because ive never seen "the software crashed, here is a backup/recovery" before now. so i assumed it was new and had autosaved without me knowing
    :') the annoyance of downloading a midi for a song to cover but then getting half way into throwing down lyrics when you realize the midi isnt.... accurate. like it just take liberties and starts doing something not exactly accurate to the melody line.... sigh. time to throw it back into fl and fix it manually
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    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    YEAH that is the worst. ill find files that seem good but then i compare it to the original and realize they used an "easier" (slower) tempo and just made the melody very normalized (not following the actual vocals specifically). the ones that try to be "easy for playing" are obnoxious in that sure it works, i guess... but they can be so off from the original because the original has a more 'natural' flow to it that the basic 'easy' version doesnt get
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    Prism
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    Also another minor annoyance is when it's a piano midi and it has everything in one channel because it's meant to be played on the piano so you have to clean it up by hand to get the Melody vocal line out of it
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    oh that for real, is the worst. i used to run into a lot of midis with that issue but my luck has been pretty good for the last many times i get them. but a lot of old midi files or ones made of those piano visualizers have that issue!
    ugh ugh i just need to vent/rant some life frustrations

    i mentioned it a bit ago but ive been trying to move out for the first time, find a place to rent in the area. in general the rent situation is a mess w how much places are getting taken and all that and right around holidays makes it even harder. but im just having a hell time and i feel utterly disregarded by landlords who clearly are jumping around to the easiest available person.

    idk why but all these online credit sites they want to use for background checks pulls up nothing for me?? even tho i can request my credit report through the gov, it still doesnt show up on typical sites like transunion, equifax, etc... every goddamn time i have submitted an app its a quick "sorry, you have no history, we cannot accept your app!" when i could very easily just... send them my credit history report myself. but im left in silence or, more likely a lot of silence from last weeks apps due to the holidays. which im more down about because i just feel like theyve already made up their choices pre holidays and i just havent heard back and probably wont until after new year.

    i get a lot of these things the landlords are using sites that have background info easily given at entering your ssn but for some reason i just dont exist on these sites. and they only rely on them for this info??? even though i could just hand them the papers myself. this is the kind of modernization of tech i dont like... where theres like twenty different services with varying information, and the ppl using them not caring enough to work something out if the service is broken or whatever.

    just completely frusterated and upset being disregarded when trying to ask them to just hold on and let me get them some info. i hope most of the silence is just the holidays and that im not being ghosted entirely....
    WyndReed
    WyndReed
    I know that there is a problem with some services where you cant get a copy of your credit report if you haven’t been somewhere for at least three years(my mom has had this problem), but not showing up at all is really weird.(I guess I’d have that problem too since I have no credit). It’s really crazy right now for housing, landlords feel that they can ask for whatever they want and do whatever they please because of the market. I’ve seen a lot of places get listed one day and rented/pulled off the next. It’s very scary. I hope something works out for you soon.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i assume living in a home with family probably doesnt count as living somewhere for 3 years- like... being under a lease of some kind- which yeah i think is the issue... which is still dumb because its like. well how do i move into my first place? "you have to have rent history" how do i get rent history? "....you have to rent a place". i have credit history dating back to 2019 as i got a credit card at 18 w my dad also having a credit card through him so, even more history. and yet it still doesnt show up on these sites.... im trying to stay in my city rn for safety net reasons+friends+no drivers license but, i may try to remind myself to breath and consider places a bit further out because there is a *lot* more available.... gonna try to keep applying where i am, but also try to use my wait time to get my drivers license + this other nonsense with credit history sorted out perhaps.
    oh nooo i kinda assumed solaria would come out like... mid-late jan! ive bought so many things around xmas i feel anxious potentially spending money on her... i gotta hold myself back and at least give some time to hear more usage. i know i will likely buy her but i gotta justify it just a little by not grabbing her day of.
    Prism
    Prism
    She's getting a lite version so you'll be able to try her out
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i forgot! im glad for that. tho i still have to be patient and not jump the gun the moment i download her lite and play her even once lol.
    dug up a very nicely tuned vsqx in my files i have had since 2016 and while i knew it would be hell to edit it to synth v (all the note bending...help) ive sat down and just editted it for the past 5 hours and only just got the main track done. typically i wouldnt do this but the file it so good and Anri sounds real nice with it so... we'll see if i finish this lol
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