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Granata

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Did they also announce her for Millefeuille?
Asking because I saw nothing but considering the timing, that the second song you sent is by the same person who made Luther's demo and that both parties would profit from it, it seems likely
 
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In their blog they said their next batch of vocalists would be genre-focused - it would be swag if they did the art in styles that matched e.g. Vintage American illustration style for a country singer (like Leyendecker), an opera singer with a classic oil painted portrait, a robotic electronic voice with something neon and glitched out, a horrifying Geiger-esque black metal singer... But I'm most interested to see what genres they tackle!
 
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wrong_thyme

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lIlI said:
In their blog they said their next batch of vocalists would be genre-focused - it would be swag if they did the art in styles that matched e.g. Vintage American illustration style for a country singer (like Leyendecker), an opera singer with a classic oil painted portrait, a robotic electronic voice with something neon and glitched out, a horrifying Geiger-esque black metal singer... But I'm most interested to see what genres they tackle!
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omg don't give me such high hopes, now i'm gonna be disappointed when that doesn't happen exactly asfdgacdsbh
 
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MagicalMiku

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Apr 13, 2018
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report about Miku charity project during Snow Miku 2024☃💌💕
First of all, we would like to express our deepest sympathies to everyone who was affected by the earthquake that occurred mainly in the Noto Peninsula.

Crypton Future Media Co., Ltd. (Headquarters: Sapporo, Hokkaido, Representative Director: Hiroyuki Ito) will be working on the reconstruction project of the Noto Peninsula Earthquake of 2024. For the purpose of support, we have been developing the recovery support project "HATSUNE MIKU CHARITY PROJECT" (commonly known as Miku Charity Project).
*The project was originally scheduled to run until the end of February, but the period has been extended to March 20th (Wednesday).

We would like to inform you that we have donated 3,259,828 yen, which is a portion of the sales of our own services, and the donations (229,828 yen) we received from everyone for this project. We pray for the earliest possible recovery of the disaster-stricken areas, and would like to express our deepest gratitude to everyone who cooperated.
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[“HATSUNE MIKU CHARITY PROJECT” activity report]

Total donation amount: 3,259,828 yen
Target period: January 11, 2024 (Thursday) to March 20, 2024 (Wednesday)

■Donated a portion of the sales of the following eligible services

-Snow Miku Sky Town ( including online store )
-KARENT , Vocaloid music label
- SONICWIRE, a download sales site for products related to “sound”
- “SNOW MIKU 2024” official product sales (event venue sales)

■Set up a donation box below and donated the entire amount

-Snow Miku Sky Town (New Chitose Airport Terminal Building 4F)
- “SNOW MIKU 2024” Wing Bay Otaru venue Domingo booth　*February 10th (Sat) and February 11th (Sunday/Holiday)
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Recently a Twitter user compiled a chart of the most used vocal synths over the last 3 months:


We don't have any equivalent data to compare this to, but it's interesting to look at it next to the Top 10 stats we had from this year's first Vocacolle!
beautiful charts by me

VOCACOLLE WINTER 23/24


Last 3 Months

The biggest surprises here are Kaito and Meiko returning to a level of popularity they haven't seen in a very long time. My theory is that, if it's not due to a small group of dedicated fans posting a lot, their SP voicebanks combined with Project Sekai have increased their interest and accessibility.

Another big new entry is Miyamai Moca. I speculate that this is helped by her existing talk voicebank, and vocal modes capable of achieving two very popular singing styles - Ado-like power and idol-cuteness. Teto drastically increased the number of Japanese producers who own and know how to use SynthV, which will also open up a lot of buyers to her.

It's unclear to me whether Kafu has lost popularity, or if Teto has simply bought in a large number of new producers. Either way, Kafu's significantly less dominant now. One thing I find interesting is that Teto's songs mostly use her design, whereas Kafu's use OCs. Is the era of vocal synth mascot-focused PVs returning?
 
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InstallGentoo

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Might be just polling/observation method caused different results. I don't really know what these numbers mean? Songs from where? Where did Vocacolle get it's numbers? does it have numbers, I just see percentages.
 
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The stats pull from the number of new tracks tagged with each vocal synth on NicoNicoDouga, one from the period of Vocacolle in February, one from the last 3 months! You can see the numbers in the original tweet, and here.
 
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Hi! Dusting off my account to clear some things up about this graph because I've seen it get spread around a lot and I feel like it's bit misunderstood.

This graph only tells us how many videos were posted to Nico over the span of 3 months, nothing more, nothing less. I don't recommend this graph as a reference to gauge a vsynth's popularity and impact.

The biggest pitfall of the method OP used is exclusively going off of video amount, not tallying in view count. This method is susceptible to spam warping the end results.

I wouldn't go so far as to call it a spam, but there's been an user on Nico, who's posted hundredths worth of covers of several vsynth characters, no exaggeration. They don't get a lot of engagement yet they add up in the graph and bump certain vsynths up in it. Notably Piko who was suspiciously high but also Kaito and Meiko too, probably explaining how they ended up so high. Regardless, it does not represent their influence and impact.
 
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While one singular statistic can never perfectly represent every factor behind a phenomenon, I think they still give a good indication of trends within producers - much better than we can achieve with anecdotal evidence. While people have gone overboard looking at minor differences lower down in the rankings and treating it as conclusive evidence of popularity, I think it would be an overcorrection to disregard the graph altogether: rather it should be treated as a piece of the puzzle! Ignoring small changes that can be influenced by fluke events, this graph accurately reflects several things we've observed in the past year: in particular Kafu giving way to Teto as the second-most trendy vocal synth.

I've been thinking more about trends in who Japanese producers like to use - is vFlower and Yuki's time in the limelight fading? While I'm certain they'll keep a dedicated group of fans, I haven't seen as many hits featuring them as of late.

Of course, while this is about usage, there is another type of popularity in vocal synths: non-musical fandom. In terms of fanart and character love, Miku felt like the only vocal synth big enough to be considered an icon outside of her existence as music software. But now, I think Teto can be given the same title. Looking at social media, people come to her for more than just catchy songs; she has developed into an idol in her own right. I think she and Miku make a good contrasting pair, so this is pretty cool.
 
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MagicalMiku

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hi hiiiii ^u^
sooo nice to hear you again after long time, that's so nice!!!:teto_smile_lili::teto_smile_lili:
and yes you're totally correct about the graph and the usage stats that are about NicoNico. If one was about to make a deeper research about a Vsynth popularity, should take stats from not only NicoNico videos and artworks (in the last 12 months at least), but also Twitter posts, pixiv artworks, piapro arts and songs uploaded, topics on 2ch, official companies blog posts and goods released on shops and prize arcades ^-^
take care!!:miku_sakura_lili::prima_lili::una_lili::teto_smile_lili:
 
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