How much phoneme editing do engloids need? I have never used an engloid (excluding Eleanor & Maki), but I am thinking of maybe getting Oliver sometime soon. Also, how hard is Oliver to use?
I don't have much experience with Oliver myself since I've only tried him a bit, but here's a sliding scale of what I do have:How much phoneme editing do engloids need? I have never used an engloid (excluding Eleanor & Maki), but I am thinking of maybe getting Oliver sometime soon. Also, how hard is Oliver to use?
Resident Oliver user @peaches2217 can probably help you, lol!How much phoneme editing do engloids need? I have never used an engloid (excluding Eleanor & Maki), but I am thinking of maybe getting Oliver sometime soon. Also, how hard is Oliver to use?
He’s… not beginner-friendly. Or intermediate-friendly. Not exactly advanced-friendly either, let’s be real. In terms of difficulties working around his issues, I’d put him on-par, quality-wise, with Sonika. That said, he’s not impossible to get good results with, as his plethora of popular songs shows, it’s just a matter of patience and acceptance of his limitations. If you’re looking for an Engloid that’s smooth and easy to use, look as far from Oliver as possible, but if you don’t mind those issues or if you just like Oliver’s voice, I say go for it!Resident Oliver user @peaches2217 can probably help you, lol!
I've heard mixed things about Fukase, honestly: like Miku V4 English, he's either one of the easiest Engloids to use or one of the hardest, and I see little in-between on that. So do keep that in mind going in, but again, don't let difficulty level discourage you if you genuinely enjoy a vocal! (I've only worked with his Japanese so far, which is actually pretty difficult, but I enjoy his tone in English more, so I imagine he's easier to work with... I've gotta use his English sometime.)Wouldn't Fukase be a good Engloid for beginners?
I would say that if you want Oliver but are too rookie to him, Fukase is the closest best option :D
oh yes, her voice is gorgeous but her consonants are so weirdWow, I basically forgot about this thread!
Gonna be honest, with how much I use English Vocaloid, I've kind of gotten used to its quirks. It's hard to say how much phoneme editing a Vocaloid requires since it depends what you want to use it for. The thing with Oliver is his volume inconsistencies, and his warbling choir-y tone doesn't lend itself well to projects where you need the singer to be understandable. Avanna's consonants are her real weak point >.<
I'm sure I can find solutions for her.If it's a volume thing you can just use a vocal rider on them. If it's a length thing use the velocity parameter. I never really noticed a problem with avanna she sounds great out of the box a lot better than most English vocaloids.
On the subject of fukase, his English bank is really high quality for a Japanese English bank. He shares a similar voice type to Oliver and Len. He doesn't suffer from Oliver's poor recordings and breathy husk that makes Oliver hard to understand. But they both require a good EQ and mixing. If you are good at actual mixing then I would recommend them both.