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  • Prism
    Was using gumi v4 and anri in a song together and I forgot how choppy standard synthesis can sound. I think that is something over looked in the conversation about ai vs non ai vocalsynths. Is that ai can fill in the gaps and resample in a way that it can sound less choppy and more natural.
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    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    In all seriousness, I think this one is heavily dependent on both the engine and the vocal. Standard synths can be choppier overall, a problem exaggerated by certau vocals, but can often be smoothed out. AI synths can be smoother out of the box, but react poorly to things like tests or glottals, resulting in a choppy sound.

    And then there’s whatever’s going on with CeVIO AI, because good LORD that engine loves glottal stops. Perhaps it’s safest to say that CeVIO AI is an outlier and should not be counted. 😆

    Honestly, I don’t think either choppiness or smoothness should be looked down upon or elevated over the other. For some people, that smooth realism is the end goal, and for others, the more synthesized sound of standard engines is a key part of the charm. It’s all a matter of preference!
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    I think some voice types work better in standard voice synths over AI, and vice versa. For example, an unrealistic or characterised voice like Miku is more likely to sound better in a traditional synth because realism isn't the end goal of the voice, and any issues like choppiness can sometimes be part of the charm. (In hindsight, Miku V2 is choppy compared to later versions, but noticing that now makes me oddly nostalgic for V2's engine quirks). On the other hand, voices like Saki will sound better in AI because a realistic result was always the intended goal.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    (Er, why is this scenario here...?)

    If Rin broke into my house at 4am and drank all my diet Coke, I'd stop her before she left and be like, "Ok, here's what you do. Call up all your friends and tell them to come over and bring their drink orders with. I'm going to order us some pizzas, too, so get their topping preferences."

    Regarding the real conversation, I agree with @peaches2217 and @Blue Of Mind. Sorry, I just wanted to dwell in my pizza party daydream for awhile....
    Prism
    I don't know if it's just weird exchange rates or are synth Vs getting more expensive? I understand inflation is a thing but it is a lot to go from 80 to 120 but I hope these companies are more stable from it and can make enough to make new voices
    Prism
    4am thoughts... Ahs said they developed 10 voicebanks for voice peak meaning there's 3 voice banks just sitting on the shelf ready to be released I wonder who they are
    Prism
    Okay since kanru is now high up in ahs can we get a maki voice modes?
    xuu
    xuu
    AHS said they were working on them a while ago if I remember correctly
    Prism
    Prism
    Oh thank you didn't know that.
    Prism
    A little disappointed we didn't get any info on Maki's voice modes for her anniversary. Ok like the new 3d model is cute but I hope she gets updated with them.
    Prism
    I really want to do duets with Weina and Kaito about them going on roller coasters with them being the disney loids.
    Prism
    Wish Cevio had a free editor because I would scoop up maki English talk and IA English song but the buying 100$ software to use them make me hesitant
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    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    Coming from someone who took forever to make up my mind about buying any Cevios to begin with, agreed! As the most expensive vocal synth editor right now (well okay the Song Editor is roughly the same price as SynthV Pro, but throw Talk into the equation and well), one would think it would have a free trial but nope, there's just CCS for 30 days or Pro (which is only for singing for that matter).
    Prism
    Still patiently waiting for the medium 5 synth v updates I hope they aren't cancelled
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    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    I've been concerned about them being cancelled ever since Quadimension tweeted that they can't afford to develop speech voicebanks, and since her release they've been only focusing on Stardust. Suspicious.
    Prism
    Prism
    Yeah it's very concerning that they kinda went silent on them ever since stardust. They probably put all their money into Stardust's development. Stardust seems very well made and probably has a ton of extra recordings with all her varying voice modes. I'm hoping they are still developing the plus updates but silent because they don't want to overshadow stardust.
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    I've heard rumors they're being quietly cancelled, but those are just rumors fn
    Prism
    Does anyone know how to import pitch into Cevio pro ? I tried utaformax with a standard Cevio file and it doesn't work.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i had this issue too, im afraid that is may not be compatible in the conversion or cevio pro just doesnt read it from those file types :/
    Prism
    Prism
    Was trying to find a work around to use synth V's auto pitch on it to correct some of the weird pitch
    Prism
    Am I the only person frustrated with how quad dimension is handling the ai updates? Like I get they want to update all of them and release them all at once. But it's taking forever compared to how fast they announced and released stardust.
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    Rylitah
    Rylitah
    I don't really think they're taking an unreasonably long time. I'd imagine it would take longer to manually tune a voice to train for AI - they aren't having the VPs record data for it (though I think that's in the plans for later) which is why they're called Plus and not AI.

    Not to mention it's six entire vocals they have to do this for. I'm not surprised it's taking a while at all; Stardust's been a thing they've been aiming for a long while now, so she was their top priority.
    aru ii
    aru ii
    I’m frustrated on one hand, but on the other hand it gives me more time to buy as many of them as I can so that I’ll get the plus updates for free
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    Prism
    Prism
    I just think they should release them one by one so they can get the money they desperately need, because Sky and Muxin are pretty much almost done and waiting for them to finish the other 4 vocals before they release them all. I realize it takes a lot to make them I'm not frustrated about that.
    Prism
    Is it bad that i can't seem to like cyrpton banks like I used to after that Leo project Sekai event. I just can't feel right with them anymore. That and not using the profit for improving the banks. It just doesn't sit right with me.
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