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Other Software nChant by Altomere Labs (Formally Maghni AI by Crescendia)

lIlI

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I have no issues with the name, as we live in a world where one of our leading vocal synthesizers is called ...Synthesizer

(no one can touch the GOAT "VOCALOID" in the naming department. I would consider the memorability and immediately clear concept within this brand name a significant factor in the break-out virality of the entire industry. No other company has even come close to as effective a brand name for vsynths and we are all basically riding in the wake of its success)

That said, the decision of whether or not to make a new thread for nChant has me scratching my chin like a Greek philosopher. Is it a new engine? Or just a new name for Maghni? Was Maghni AI just a figment of our imagination?

I think to the fandom, this is still Maghni under a new identity, but the developers would prefer it be seen as a whole new project. Spiritually, both positions have reasonable arguments to support them. Much of the codebase was originally developed under the name Maghni, the team members are all original Maghni team members. They would prefer not to be developing Maghni, but Maghni hangs over them as a sort of divine punishment. However, almost all distinguishing features of Maghni have been removed piece-by-piece. The company line states it's unconnected, but the subtext of even mentioning the Vocatone libraries shows they haven't entirely exorcised their past.

One last note: they mention that Crescendia retains ownership of the Maghni brand, indicating that nChant is not by Crescendia. I initially thought this was a typo; why separate from Crescendia, I thought the current devs were Crescendia? There hadn't been an announcement from Crescendia of Cocoa and Aku departing the company - but Cinna and Tart aren't present on the nChant team page. So it appears Crescendia had an internal split?

Perhaps handing over the legal responsibility of Maghni to Crescendia then effectively retiring the company allows members of the crowdfund to wipe their hands of the engine.

it's quite shrimple

Step 1: Hand over responsibility for delivering the Maghni crowdfund to Crescendia
Step 2: Everybody leaves Crescendia
Result: No one is responsible for the Maghni crowdfund

Crescendia was made the unlucky carrier of Maghni, then metaphorically buried in the desert like vsynth nuclear waste disposal. With no connection to Crescendia (sacrificed to cleanse Natalia, Austin, Cocoa, and Aku of Maghni's sins), nChant frees themselves of Maghni and the crowdfund.

*edit* Decided that since their announcement post called it a rebrand THE THREAD REMAINS
 
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Decided that since their announcement post called it a rebrand THE THREAD REMAINS
I was in middle of typing a comment in favor of this change lol

I was gonna say how beneficial this would be for archival and documentation standpoint. This thread has been the most comprehensible, transparent documentation of events and is a great resource and I think it's important for people to stay informed on the history of this project and for it to not fall into obscurity. It's a very important context that people should have easily available. 🙏

but Cinna and Tart aren't present on the nChant team page. So it appears Crescendia had an internal split?
I was weirded out by this too. I was especially surprised because in the Discord server they have available, Tart is the most outspoken person, answering people's questions and their messages suggest they very much still are an active developer on this project.
 

SeleDreams

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Jul 31, 2019
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In a way it's kinda fascinating how for a long time Emvoice was one of the vocal synths engines that was kinda hated by the community due to their sarcastic attitude toward the vocaloid community. Ace Studio too for other reasons.

But in the end i feel like maghni really took another proportion entirely lmao they completely flipped all the tables, the company of EMVoice and Ace feel like saints compared to the mess of maghni
 

ccodaze

Cocoa
Apr 8, 2018
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Crescendia was always a DBA under Misbah Studios. It was first ran by Natalia, then handed to a member of the current team. When the leadership role came to me, we decided a rebrand was the best way to go forward. We are still trying to fulfill what promises old management made that we can, despite those promises not being made by us. Tart and Cinna are still on the team, they just didn't want their images on the website anymore.
 

kimiworld

Aspiring Fan
Jul 11, 2018
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Crescendia was always a DBA under Misbah Studios. It was first ran by Natalia, then handed to a member of the current team. When the leadership role came to me, we decided a rebrand was the best way to go forward. We are still trying to fulfill what promises old management made that we can, despite those promises not being made by us. Tart and Cinna are still on the team, they just didn't want their images on the website anymore.
Thanks for your explanation Cocoa. The journey is for sure extremely arduous, but I am looking forward to what nChant has to offer soon, and how it would be different compared to other vocal synths.
 
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BANKARA_TV

vocal synthesis and cartoon horse person
Jun 24, 2021
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i feel like the few people that have stayed on and tried to dedicate themselves to fixing this mess have gotten more grief with this attempted rebrand than the people who made the mess in the first place. not that i don't get it, i get people don't really know who to trust and are worried about supporting the project again just to get strung along - fair enough!! people paid money into this project and have yet to see any kind of return on that

BUT, i just think there should be like. a DEGREE of separation at this point. not to say anyone upset with the situation should just not feel that way or whatever, rather i don't really get why this now being done by the few who do appear to want to right wrongs are the straw to break the camel's back. i understand they're going to have to build up that good faith again, if they fail to that's a whole other thing, maybe i've just put too much faith in these guys... but would giving up, running away and claiming no responsibility at all as the other option REALLY be the better thing to do here? i dunno
i'd rather there be a 50/50 chance of nchant making it out there or not for the people who have supported it all this time, than just no accountability and it getting entirely scrapped.
 

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