Unpopular Opinions

[MillyAqualine]

Guess I must be a fake Mermaid Melody fan because I have no idea what you're talking about. Aren't the main 3 princesses 14? They have to be adults in Aqua if they have kids now.

No what I mean is, the difference between mermaids' age (as in bilogical so let's say 14) and then how they'd be really old if they were humans (like being 13-14 in mermaid age = 18 in human age because the aging process is different)

So when I rememeber the old 15 years and a half VS 31 for Teto, it kinda reminds me this x'D As in, one age would be like the mermaids' age and then the equivalent would be the human equivalent

 

[Solinus]

More than 80% of the Vocaloid songs that come up on my feed are depressing, sad, or downright violent songs in some way. If I saw maybe half the songs I see being like that, then that would've been fine, but the problem is that there are just too many of them

Exactly the issue I have with finding new vocaloid songs. I can think of a grand total of 2 modern producers that make happy, cute vocaloid songs: Jamie Paige and ilyeucli. IDK if irucaice counts because I only started listening to them just today.

 

[Tortoiseshel]

You gotta remember that the Vipperloids (Teto, Ruko, Ritsu, Tei, Rook, Miko, etc.) were created by trolls on what is basically the Japanese version of 4chan, so any "biographical information" they may have is ultimately just a joke. Combined with the usual vocal synth standard of "nothing is canon", and you can basically just do what you want with them forever. My version of Teto is a dysfunctional 31-year-old failwoman, Ruko is a 12-year-old intersex trans girl living with her 19-year-old brother Rook, and Ritsu is a 14-year-old GNC trans boy. It's all good!

 

[Blue Of Mind]

Exactly the issue I have with finding new vocaloid songs. I can think of a grand total of 2 modern producers that make happy, cute vocaloid songs: Jamie Paige and ilyeucli. IDK if irucaice counts because I only started listening to them just today.

My issue with modern Vocaloid songs as a fandom oldie is that they're just not as memorable as the songs that were published between 2008 and c. 2015. Might be just my age and a lack of time to really dig around for new songs compared to when I was younger, but newer songs simply don't stick around in my brain compared to the older tracks. There's even been a few cases where I save a song I initially like onto my YouTube Vocaloid playlist, forget about it for a while, then I come back to it and I realise it wasn't as interesting as I initially thought, so I delete it.

You gotta remember that the Vipperloids (Teto, Ruko, Ritsu, Tei, Rook, Miko, etc.) were created by trolls on what is basically the Japanese version of 4chan, so any "biographical information" they may have is ultimately just a joke. Combined with the usual vocal synth standard of "nothing is canon", and you can basically just do what you want with them forever. My version of Teto is a dysfunctional 31-year-old failwoman, Ruko is a 12-year-old intersex trans girl living with her 19-year-old brother Rook, and Ritsu is a 14-year-old GNC trans boy. It's all good!

Controversial post incoming - I've long been baffled as to how the Western fandom adopted Ritsu and Ruko as LGBT icons, despite them being originally conceived as troll characters with LGBTphobic implications (and especially considering that Ritsu's creator has expressed support for Donald Trump in the past). At the very least, the "nothing is canon" rule has meant that Ritsu and Ruko have gained far more respectful interpretations over the years (their VBs actually sounding good also helps a lot).

 

[sunnyp4rk]

Apparently with new fans this is unpopular so I suppose I will ramble about it here.

I hate the disingenuous "sorry that i don't know all 368338 vocaloids that came out in 2012" bs that a lot of new fans pull online. Like, ok. You don't need to know every Vocaloid. You can even prefer Miku! Nobody is saying you can't. But I am begging new fans to actually look deeper into Vocaloid than the surface.

 

[Bookworm2]

Apparently with new fans this is unpopular so I suppose I will ramble about it here.

I hate the disingenuous "sorry that i don't know all 368338 vocaloids that came out in 2012" bs that a lot of new fans pull online. Like, ok. You don't need to know every Vocaloid. You can even prefer Miku! Nobody is saying you can't. But I am begging new fans to actually look deeper into Vocaloid than the surface.

I agree. Like when I was new to Vocaloid, like maybe a few months in, I only knew I think the Crypton 6, Teto, and maybe Gumi and Gackpo. And that was fine! When I interacted will more long-time fans, they were fine with that, and were friendly and helpful. But with these new fans, no particular hate to them by the way, they seem to take "Hey, do you know about x Vocaloid" as "Why don't you know x Vocaloid, loser" when that is NOT what the other person is saying. Like nobody is asking you to know every Vocaloid ever produced, they just want to know if you know a certain one!

 

[Blue Of Mind]

Apparently with new fans this is unpopular so I suppose I will ramble about it here.

I hate the disingenuous "sorry that i don't know all 368338 vocaloids that came out in 2012" bs that a lot of new fans pull online. Like, ok. You don't need to know every Vocaloid. You can even prefer Miku! Nobody is saying you can't. But I am begging new fans to actually look deeper into Vocaloid than the surface.

You've just reminded me of the pain I used to experience around 2009 or so, when I'd sometimes come across people who'd stan Miku (for example), but literally didn't know any other Vocaloid other than her, and this was way back when the Vocaloid product pool was tinier than today. It got to a point where I noticed there was a hierarchy of "fanon discontinuity" within Vocaloid, where some people would only acknowledge Miku; some acknowledged Miku and the Kagamines but no-one else; some only acknowledged the Cryptonloids; some acknowledged the Cryptonloids, Gumi and Gakupo, etc.

Much of this was just favouritism towards the Japanese Vocaloids though, which I'm glad the modern fandom has largely outgrown. (I felt I had to really defend the Engloids from attacks back then, because they'd get so much grief from native English-speaking fans for sounding "strange", never mind that I'm pretty sure some native Japanese speakers thought some of the Japanese Vocaloids sounded odd too. If you know a language well enough, you can tell when a vocal synth pronounces things oddly, which was a very common problem with the Engloids back then.)

 

[sunnyp4rk]

I agree. Like when I was new to Vocaloid, like maybe a few months in, I only knew I think the Crypton 6, Teto, and maybe Gumi and Gackpo. And that was fine! When I interacted will more long-time fans, they were fine with that, and were friendly and helpful. But with these new fans, no particular hate to them by the way, they seem to take "Hey, do you know about x Vocaloid" as "Why don't you know x Vocaloid, loser" when that is NOT what the other person is saying. Like nobody is asking you to know every Vocaloid ever produced, they just want to know if you know a certain one!

Exactly! When I was new to Vocaloid, I only really knew about Miku and Gumi, though I did find out about Macne Nana and Yanhe pretty early, I think. I don't expect new fans to know every Vocaloid at first because I sure as hell didn't. I just expect people to actually look into the characters they claim to like. It seems stupid not to, IMO.

 

[Beananium]

Apparently with new fans this is unpopular so I suppose I will ramble about it here.

I hate the disingenuous "sorry that i don't know all 368338 vocaloids that came out in 2012" bs that a lot of new fans pull online. Like, ok. You don't need to know every Vocaloid. You can even prefer Miku! Nobody is saying you can't. But I am begging new fans to actually look deeper into Vocaloid than the surface.

I don't understand how fans who join the Vocaloid / wider Vocal Synth fandom and claim to be huge fans can also refuse to look up anything about anything about the software itself, how Vocal Synth music works, the culture surrounding it, or even learn more about the characters.

The otaku-wannabe middle schooler I was didn't immedietely get hooked on Vocal Synth culture when I asked who Hatsune Miku was, but I was able to look up stuff about her and learned a bit. Even if my knowledge was elementary, the interesting songs I saw got me to try the demo for Project Mirai and eventually buy the game on a whim with leftover Christmas money; the true begining of my love for Vocal Synths and it's culture blossoming from seeing all the possibilites these characters had and what people were already able to do with them. I wondered how it all worked...

I immedietely ran to the Vocaloid Wiki to learn more, and was so facinated by how many characters there were, how there are so many companies and people working on these characters, and it just got me hooked to learn more and apply my knowledge to annoy my clueless friends by yapping about this cool thing when I came back from winter break.

The idea of another otaku-wannabe middle schooler responding with a sarcastic no when prompted to look more into what Hatsune Miku even is all about and still claiming they're a huge fan... I find it strange how they became a fan in the first place when they don't bother to look into the most fasinating things about Hatsune Miku and everything surrounding her.

 

[Bookworm2]

I'm not sure how unpopular this is, but I actually really like flower's Gynoid Talk design! It looks really good, and the jacket fits her really well. She looks tomboyish, with a little bit of the flare her V3 design had.

 

[KyrenInutilis]

MY UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!
- CiFlower is really good (her 2.0 and her Voisona, NOT 1.0!!! TOO CEVIO-NOISED!!)
- I really don't like Ritsu's voice. It's just... meh.
- I also don't really like Adachi Rei, but I appreciate the work that goes into making her.
- Could be considered Part 2 of my Ritsu opinion, but I also just don't really like most of the vipperloids. The fake cryptonloid or crypton-inspired voicebank concept itself is something I've come to love, though.

I think these could be considered unpopular, at least.

 

[lynnquote]

MY UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!
- I really don't like Ritsu's voice. It's just... meh.
I think these could be considered unpopular, at least.

I partially feel the same.
Don't get me wrong, Ritsu's quality for an UTAU or freeware synth is pretty impressive with how clean it is,
Canon clearly knows how to make a clean vocal..Though it's been years since I've tuned Ritsu, so I might be not remembering well.

I don't like Kire voicebanks as I find the loudness to be disturbing, and Ritsu is partially responsible for the Kire voicebank genre.
Fans of Kire and Power/Solid style voices tend to be rather hard to understand, because some of them give off the idea of "loud yelling = good singer."
They put a lot of expectation whenever their character gets ported/upgraded,
Kasane Teto fans specifically tend to voice their complaints a lot, about SV Teto not being as loud by default,
even though:
1. She can be tuned and mixed to match
2. UTAU resampler's peakcompressor/normalization is where the power comes from,
3. Teto Sakebi's samples are so unnatural, that it seems like she was either too close to the mic, or they put audio effects on her besides the pitch shifting..

Sakebi could've been better.
The microphone they used is lacking, and I'd rather have the more natural singing of SV
than Oyamano Mano tearing her vocal cords trying to voice act as Sakebi,
or the mixer dealing with audio distortion by an artificially-tense vocal.

There are times where loudness is inappropriate for a song, such as those Ritsu covers of Palette by Yuyoyuppe.
That song is meant to be sung with a light falsetto voice if we take Luka's voice as example.
It's supposed to sound ethereal or angelic, the instrumental is the shouting part.
If we have everything be loud all the time, then the song will sound indescribably lesser.

 

[junky]

I wish there were more fanloids inspired by other Vocaloid companies, or fake vsynths for synths that aren’t Vocaloid.