Other Music distribution service BIG UP! allows international vocal synth producers to monetize their work

[SeleDreams]

I learned about it from a recent Twindrills fanbox post. It seems like a new music distribution service named Big Up allows international users to publish their work on spotify etc without having to censor the name and design of the voicebank they're using (thus allowing to mention "hatsune miku", "kasane teto" "vflower" etc in the name of the release)
it also allows to have cover arts using the character for the album/EP

they have a list of all the voicebanks they allow available here: BIG UP!

The website is available at BIG UP!, for non-japanese producers, they have the option to use Paypal to receive money rather than a japanese bank account.


Those are the terms when it comes to the revenue split.
when they talk about use of the names, they mean that it is forbidden to just title a song "Teto" or to just title a song "Kagamine Rin"

To credit the voicebank and enable the revenue split, you will need to set the voice as a featured artist when publishing.
You can do so like this. It is also possible to set the vocaloid as the main artist, in this case it would end up credited as
"Hatsune Miku (Composer name)" for instance (putting the name of the composer in parentheses)

This is how it appears once a song is published (here it's apple music, kilda was the guitarist I credited too in the featuring artist category)

 

[MagicalMiku]

mm.. I understand why this kind of service exists, and while i'm not familiar with other voice synth companies, for Crypton i'm sure there are strict guidelines, terms and conditions when it comes to publish any song made using their software.
if you are a producer and using Crypton software, please contact Crypton at the following address before publish songs and videos under any kind of service:
intlbiz [at] crypton.co.jp

contact page:

クリプトン｜About us

www.crypton.co.jp

they will be very happy to assist with any kind of information regarding this. Before applying to any kind of service, please contact Crypton or other companies directly,thank you.
Crypton piapro guidelines:

piapro.net

piapro.net

 

[SeleDreams]

mm.. I understand why this kind of service exists, and while i'm not familiar with other voice synth companies, for Crypton i'm sure there are strict guidelines, terms and conditions when it comes to publish any song made using their software.
if you are a producer and using Crypton software, please contact Crypton at the following address before publish songs and videos under any kind of service:
intlbiz [at] crypton.co.jp

contact page:

クリプトン｜About us

www.crypton.co.jp

they will be very happy to assist with any kind of information regarding this. Before applying to any kind of service, please contact Crypton or other companies directly,thank you.
Crypton piapro guidelines:

piapro.net

piapro.net

this is the standard procedure if we use a non officially supported distribution service.
The whole point of this kind of officially supported service is to simplify the procedure, it will automatically send 20% of the income from the uploads to crypton future media, they signed a contract with them for this

 

[MagicalMiku]

this is the standard procedure if we use a non officially supported distribution service.
The whole point of this kind of service is to simplify the procedure, it will automatically send 20% of the income from the uploads to crypton future media, they signed a contract with them for this

I apologize if my previous message seemed negative, but it wasn't: that is basically a proxy service that takes a cut of 20%, and my advice for any producer is to never sign a contract with an external service, because you never know what can happen in the future with that service. A song is a personal work. That's why I recommend to contact directly Crypton ot the other companies for any commercial use. Crypton itself has its own Karent label, and many producers publish their songs digitally on mora, apple stores, amazon music, etc.. and if you are a new producer, is better to start with not-commercial songs and publish them without worries. Most Vocaloid producers started like this.

 

[SeleDreams]

I apologize if my previous message seemed negative, but it wasn't: that is basically a proxy service that takes a cut of 20%, and my advice for any producer is to never sign a contract with an external service, because you never know what can happen in the future with that service. A song is a personal work. That's why I recommend to contact directly Crypton ot the other companies for any commercial use. Crypton itself has its own Karent label, and many producers publish their songs digitally on mora, apple stores, amazon music, etc.. and if you are a new producer, is better to start with not-commercial songs and publish them without worries. Most Vocaloid producers started like this.

I think you didn't actually check, the 20% cut is actually directly sent to crypton for their vocal synth system associated

the cut of the service itself is of 30% for free uploads and of 0% for paid uploads
which means that for a free upload, the share would be of 50% (30% for the service, 20% for crypton)
for a paid upload it would be 20% (0% for the service, 20% for crypton)
I would suggest to verify your informations before posting, I did verify mines beforehand

The official Twindrills account even promoted the service next to KARENT as an alternative for foreigners 重音テトを使用した収益化について｜重音テト公式ツインドリル｜pixivFANBOX

 

[MagicalMiku]

sorry, I was replying to your message regarding the cut

it will automatically send 20% of the income

and yes there are different plans, and I understand why a service like this might seem nice. It is nice and helpful for many people, i'm sure, but if you think to become a successful producer, my advice is to start with not-commercial songs. After you become popular with your songs, the music labels will contact you. Or you can use these kind of services, or doing it by yourself (it's sure much harder, but you have control of any rights of your work and you don't depend on theirs terms of service, which can change).

 

[SeleDreams]

sorry, I was replying to your message regarding the cut

and yes there are different plans, and I understand why a service like this might seem nice. It is nice and helpful for many people, i'm sure, but if you think to become a successful producer, my advice is to start with not-commercial songs. After you become popular with your songs, the music labels will contact you. Or you can use these kind of services, or doing it by yourself (it's sure much harder, but you have control of any rights of your work and you don't depend on theirs terms of service, which can change).

I think you confuse music distribution services with labels.
with these services we do have control over our songs and we don't lose any copyright, we can stop using the service whenever we want. They just provide us with the ability to post on various storefronts without worrying about the legal procedures in exchange for a fee. (30% for big up + the fees sent to crypton future media)

technically it's not about "becoming a successful" producer or not, it's to simple have the ability to upload our songs on spotify etc which can also be for pure convenience as an indie cannot upload on spotify without a label or a music distribution service

 

[MagicalMiku]

what I just said from the first message is that, in any case, is better to first contact the voice synth company to have more information about the commercial use of the songs and see what is better. Some prefer to have more control and pay less fees (but spend much more time, indeed), and others prefer the other way. That's the nice thing of the self-publish, there are many options to choose from.

 

[SeleDreams]

what I just said from the first message is that, in any case, is better to first contact the voice synth company to have more information about the commercial use of the songs and see what is better. Some prefer to have more control and pay less fees (but spend much more time, indeed), and others prefer the other way. That's the nice thing of the self-publish, there are many options to choose from.

There might have been a misunderstanding in such a case because I originally thought you were saying I was wrong about Big Up! Being a legal alternative to a custom contract

I added informations about how to feature a voicebank in a release.

 

[SeleDreams]

Updated with 12 new voicebanks added to the list

 

[SeleDreams]

I just updated it with the two added vbs, Haruno Sora and Tsurumaki maki (they seem to add voicebanks regularly, that's pretty cool)

 

[AmazingStrange39]

Maybe someday AVANNA will be supported as well...

 

[SeleDreams]

Maybe someday AVANNA will be supported as well...

They seem to mostly work with japanese and chinese companies so I don't know if zero-g will collaborate

 

[AmazingStrange39]

They seem to mostly work with japanese and chinese companies so I don't know if zero-g will collaborate

hey, at least that's 2/3 of my vocaloids

 

[SeleDreams]

Updated the list as Kyomachi Seika got added

 

[SeleDreams]

I added IA and ONE to the list

 

[SeleDreams]

For people to have an up to date list of all voicebanks allowed, I included a direct link to the voicebank list of big up

 

[InstallGentoo]

it will automatically send 20% of the income from the uploads to crypton future media, they signed a contract with them for this

I'm always skeptical of this stuff. do they really? first time I've heard of big up. is it a legally backed statement? is it subject to change in terms and conditions?

 

[SeleDreams]

I'm always skeptical of this stuff. do they really? first time I've heard of big up. is it a legally backed statement? is it subject to change in terms and conditions?

Big up is a service that directly has contracts with the companies. the same as Tunecore Japan.
It was mentionned directly by several voicebanks websites. it was mentionned by twindrills on a pixiv fanbox post 重音テトを使用した収益化について｜重音テト公式ツインドリル｜pixivFANBOX , and mentionned by techno speech themselves as well AI singing software VoiSona releases first English singing voice library “Chis-A [tʃíːseɪ]”!
It's also directly mentionned by the site of IA and ONE : 【INFO】”TuneCore JAPAN / BIG UP! / narasu”各音楽配信サービスにて、IA/OИEの音声利用開放を実施!!｜NEWS｜IA -ARIA ON THE PLANETES-
they directly have contracts with the voicebank manufacturers, however due to this they do not allow to use any voicebank not listed on their site, even if such voicebank allows commercial use without limitations (such as some utau ones or MAYU for indies), so for those you'll need to use another music distribution service

 

[AmazingStrange39]

Big up is a service that directly has contracts with the companies. the same as Tunecore Japan.
It was mentionned directly by several voicebanks websites. it was mentionned by twindrills on a pixiv fanbox post 重音テトを使用した収益化について｜重音テト公式ツインドリル｜pixivFANBOX , and mentionned by techno speech themselves as well AI singing software VoiSona releases first English singing voice library “Chis-A [tʃíːseɪ]”!
It's also directly mentionned by the site of IA and ONE : 【INFO】”TuneCore JAPAN / BIG UP! / narasu”各音楽配信サービスにて、IA/OИEの音声利用開放を実施!!｜NEWS｜IA -ARIA ON THE PLANETES-
they directly have contracts with the voicebank manufacturers, however due to this they do not allow to use any voicebank not listed on their site, even if such voicebank allows commercial use without limitations (such as some utau ones or MAYU for indies), so for those you'll need to use another music distribution service

Yeah, I guess it's best for me to publish my work, with an original character or logo or something, using another service, because I'm not planning on only using Miku and Gumi.