I should get DSK Music Box and run it via JBridge just to try it out! It would make a great intro for a metalcore track! O3O
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Studio One Thread
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Studio One 4 is here!
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Probably not a big deal to people that only use it because of Piapro, but it's here nonetheless.
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Probably not a big deal to people that only use it because of Piapro, but it's here nonetheless.
Just saw it via email.
I thought of upgrading to Studio One 3 Professional, but now, I'd rather get the newest version. Price and system requirements will decide.
Studio One 4 Artist Piapro Edition comes with Miku V5 trolololol
Here's the video for the new Studio One 4!
I may upgrade to Studio One 4 Professional (even though that upgrade is more expensive than 3 Artist to 4 Artist)
I may upgrade to Studio One 4 Professional (even though that upgrade is more expensive than 3 Artist to 4 Artist)
I already saw the update this morning, and I have a problem with it.
I looked at their upgrade prices, but while they say some stuff about upgrading from Artist to Professional and such, there is no information as to how much it will cost to upgrade from Professional 3 to Professional 4. And on Sweetwater it costs over $200 to do it. PLUS I've heard complaints about Version 4 showing little to no improvements from Version 3.
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I looked at their upgrade prices, but while they say some stuff about upgrading from Artist to Professional and such, there is no information as to how much it will cost to upgrade from Professional 3 to Professional 4. And on Sweetwater it costs over $200 to do it. PLUS I've heard complaints about Version 4 showing little to no improvements from Version 3.
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Actually, the cost to upgrade from Pro 3 to Pro 4 is $149.95 (Studio One 4 Professional Upgrade from Professional or Producer - all versions).
This video breaks some of the new features down better than that short, official promo:
I think the new chord-related stuff seems interesting, but I'm not good enough at music theory to really be able to judge it. The other updates are cosmetic. However, if you check the list comparing features, you will see ones that say "NEW".
If I decide I need this, I would only buy it on Black Friday. That's when their products are literally half off (and the sale lasts about a week).
This video breaks some of the new features down better than that short, official promo:
I think the new chord-related stuff seems interesting, but I'm not good enough at music theory to really be able to judge it. The other updates are cosmetic. However, if you check the list comparing features, you will see ones that say "NEW".
I'm really curious if this upgrade will affect what Crypton gives you when you buy their Vocaloids. Will they stick with Studio One 3 or will they switch to 4 down the line?
If I decide I need this, I would only buy it on Black Friday. That's when their products are literally half off (and the sale lasts about a week).
Sorry to say, but on the first two Black Fridays when a new version comes out for StudioOne, you still have to pay full price. You do get a few bonuses if you get the Professional version, but that's it.
I've heard of the chord-related stuff as well, and because the kind of music I do is usually recording-oriented, that's bogus. We're literally paying $200+ just for a cosmetic upgrade.
@uncreepy You need to keep in mind that I'm from the land up north (Canada) so on my version of the site it actually says $200+ (I found out about it last night while I was outside VocaVerse).
And if we do decide to wait a while longer for an upgrade it gets even more expensive, so the upgrade is going to be of nonsensical price all the same... Wow... =.=
Thanks, PreSonus, for forcing us to pay over $200 just to upgrade a DAW that lasted only two years at most.
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I've heard of the chord-related stuff as well, and because the kind of music I do is usually recording-oriented, that's bogus. We're literally paying $200+ just for a cosmetic upgrade.
@uncreepy You need to keep in mind that I'm from the land up north (Canada) so on my version of the site it actually says $200+ (I found out about it last night while I was outside VocaVerse).
And if we do decide to wait a while longer for an upgrade it gets even more expensive, so the upgrade is going to be of nonsensical price all the same... Wow... =.=
Thanks, PreSonus, for forcing us to pay over $200 just to upgrade a DAW that lasted only two years at most.
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I feel like I should be more enraged by the blatant highway robbery, but my sister and I pay for various 3D software and it generally costs a lot more than what Presonus wants every time there is an update, which is also every 1-2 years. : / Maybe they should get a subscription service if they want to nickle and dime us for questionable cosmetic updates. Studio One 3 was also at version 3.5, so it seems weird being .5 away from 4 and then being like "WOoAhH look at all these kewl new features ka-ching".
@WintermintP if you're unhappy with how Presonus does things, I'd just move to another DAW, especially one better for recording. Or simply stay uaing 3.
Personally, I am perfectly fine with all of this. What has been added and updated will make things better for myself and definitely many others. I don't believe it's mandatory to have some dramatic update that caters to everyone's work because that's just...too difficult sometimes. I mean, in terms of Vocaloid, Vocaloid4 addd nothing but growl/XSY/Crypton added EVEC. I hardly use any of those features but I'm fine with that.
And in regards to price, does it really change in Canada? Studio One 4 is $400 USD for Professional, and Studio One 3 was also $400 USD for Professional throughout its life. And the upgrades aren't immediate, but Pro 2 to Pro 3 was only about $100-$150 USD on Presonus' shop if I remember right.
Tl;dr I don't have anybissues with this and I mean, I generally have the unpopular opinion in these kinds of situations given I AM very optimistic.
Personally, I am perfectly fine with all of this. What has been added and updated will make things better for myself and definitely many others. I don't believe it's mandatory to have some dramatic update that caters to everyone's work because that's just...too difficult sometimes. I mean, in terms of Vocaloid, Vocaloid4 addd nothing but growl/XSY/Crypton added EVEC. I hardly use any of those features but I'm fine with that.
And in regards to price, does it really change in Canada? Studio One 4 is $400 USD for Professional, and Studio One 3 was also $400 USD for Professional throughout its life. And the upgrades aren't immediate, but Pro 2 to Pro 3 was only about $100-$150 USD on Presonus' shop if I remember right.
Tl;dr I don't have anybissues with this and I mean, I generally have the unpopular opinion in these kinds of situations given I AM very optimistic.
This is like a grace period so the upgrades are cheaper than they are normally. Later on I believe they go up by another $100 CAD roughly. Maybe the grace period is not a thing anymore, don't quote me on that.
@Kona The $200 I'm talking about is $200 CAD. The problem with moving to another DAW is that it's either that the base prices are higher (virtually all other DAWs on the market) or navigation is really clunky (Reaper). I chose StudioOne while version 3 was still a thing because it had the best features and I was able to afford it at the time. With the stuff I have to pay having gone through the roof nowadays, even a $200 upgrade feels like an arm and a leg to me. I feel there should be discounts based on how recent the older version of StudioOne is rather than a base price for all of them because I find it unfair to have to pay more for only a little bit of an upgrade vs getting a lot more upgrade for the same price if you were using StudioOne V1, for example.
Not helped by the fact that I looked up other sites to see if I can get it cheaper but $10 off is the best I could find. Counting all of the extra stuff I have to pay such as currency exchange, still over $200.
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Big update on my setup, I have no clue if the necro is warranted here.
I finally found a vendor that provided a discount and managed to get Studio One Version 4. I spent all my earnings from the CD copies of the previous album to get it so it had better be worth my time, or I won't be using StudioOne ever again.
The first problem with the upgrade so far is that because it's version 4, it's possible that Piapro Studio might not work anymore and there might not be a way to get it working again because I have no clue when the new Piapro Editions of the Crypton Vocaloids will be available, and even then, how the hell do we make a transition from version 3 to version 4 when we've already paid for the one with version 3...
Also, another major problem I'm seeing is that there seems to be a lot of downloads that I have to go through because there are a bunch of presets and other libraries that come with Version 4. I'm still going through them as we speak.
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I finally found a vendor that provided a discount and managed to get Studio One Version 4. I spent all my earnings from the CD copies of the previous album to get it so it had better be worth my time, or I won't be using StudioOne ever again.
The first problem with the upgrade so far is that because it's version 4, it's possible that Piapro Studio might not work anymore and there might not be a way to get it working again because I have no clue when the new Piapro Editions of the Crypton Vocaloids will be available, and even then, how the hell do we make a transition from version 3 to version 4 when we've already paid for the one with version 3...
Also, another major problem I'm seeing is that there seems to be a lot of downloads that I have to go through because there are a bunch of presets and other libraries that come with Version 4. I'm still going through them as we speak.
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I don't think that's how that works, but I could always be wrong...Piapro woeks in any DAW, and thus any version of Studio One than can use VSTs. It won't need to be updated or another Crypton Vocaloid purchased to work in Studio One 4. In fact, a prine example is how early copies of Luka V4X (such as mine) include both Studio One 2 and Studio One 3 but only one download for Piapro Studio. Again, I could be wrong, but it shouldn't be effected.
And I don't exactly see how many downloads are an issue if they're presets? I understand you do recording rather than whole producing, but many presets are great for those of us who don't do that. Having many downloads is just a small price to pay for many presets and libraries.
And I don't exactly see how many downloads are an issue if they're presets? I understand you do recording rather than whole producing, but many presets are great for those of us who don't do that. Having many downloads is just a small price to pay for many presets and libraries.
Actually, there is a new version of Piapro Studio. It's a standalone program that comes with Hatsune Miku V4 Chinese and is only compatible with Miku V4 banks yet (not sure if they mean all V4 Miku's or only Chinese). Besides that it's standalone, it doesn't have any new features. That's actually redundant for me since I use it because it's a plug-in and, therefore, it's more comfortable to sync with the music.
I doubt that you will have to get another copy of it. I mean, it's installed in the program files, you just need to drag and drop the VST somewhere. And as long as you have the Install Wizard, you can uninstall and install it again if you want. It's even possible to keep the "pre-V4X" version installed by downloading the Miku V3E or MEIKO V3 demo because it does not expire, but you don't need that since you have Miku V4X.
I heard that people have problems using it in other DAWs properly. It doesn't seem to work for some DAWs at all but I have seen someone using it in FL Studio during a livestream.
Anyway, until a Studio One 4 user confirms that Piapro Studio works fine, it will be a grasp in the dark. If it doesn't work, just use Studio One 3 for it, export, and do the musical stuff in 4.
Personally, if I was a SO3 Professional user, I would just stick to mine because 4 doesn't have any features I can't live without. But since I'm an Artist user, I will upgrade to the version that offers more.
Kona is right. The version of Studio One bundled with Cryptonloids isn't created so that Piapro Studio can work in Studio One, but rather is created to not allow third party VSTis other than Piapro Studio. It might basically be like the free version of Studio One except it allows one VSTi, Piapro Studio.
A little off-topic, but the Piapro Studio Standalone does seem to have some features that the VSTi doesn't have, such as being able to import audio. (Not that I've tested it, and of course, you can always just import audio in the DAW anyway.) I think there's also some buttons that are not "grayed-out" in the Standalone that are currently "grayed-out" in the VSTi, but I haven't used the Standalone so I haven't tested them.
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Another update on StudioOne 4. It seems Piapro Studio is working fine. The only problem now is that the occasional stutters here and there still haven't been fixed, although it happens less frequently. I love the new light colour scheme but it's a little bit of a pain to work with because I can't tell which instruments/tracks are highlighted. Other than that, it's a pretty solid DAW. Some of the clunky stuff such as the sidebar faders are gone which is nice. Now I need to check the mastering suite to see if that has any problems. (but I can't until that other track is done...; not to complain or anything, just noting that it'll be a while until I get to check out the mastering suite)
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The reason why I mentioned that such a thing can be a problem is because I already had StudioOne 3 Professional before I even got Piapro Studio, and when I installed Piapro Studio, the plugin just wasn't working, so I had to install StudioOne 3 Artist OEM that came with Piapro Studio and then reinstall StudioOne 3 Professional as an upgrade just to get Piapro Studio working again, so there were additional parts that StudioOne 3 Artist OEM did have that the Professional version didn't. It works fine now though.
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Another update on StudioOne 4. It seems Piapro Studio is working fine. The only problem now is that the occasional stutters here and there still haven't been fixed, although it happens less frequently. I love the new light colour scheme but it's a little bit of a pain to work with because I can't tell which instruments/tracks are highlighted. Other than that, it's a pretty solid DAW. Some of the clunky stuff such as the sidebar faders are gone which is nice. Now I need to check the mastering suite to see if that has any problems. (but I can't until that other track is done...; not to complain or anything, just noting that it'll be a while until I get to check out the mastering suite)
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The reason why I mentioned that such a thing can be a problem is because I already had StudioOne 3 Professional before I even got Piapro Studio, and when I installed Piapro Studio, the plugin just wasn't working, so I had to install StudioOne 3 Artist OEM that came with Piapro Studio and then reinstall StudioOne 3 Professional as an upgrade just to get Piapro Studio working again, so there were additional parts that StudioOne 3 Artist OEM did have that the Professional version didn't. It works fine now though.
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Forgot to update you guys on DSK Music Box. I tried to make use of the plugin but the way everything's transposed is very clunky, and some of the notes are coming out distorted in an unpleasant way. I should also mention that a lot of the recorded notes are off-pitch to the point the whole instrument became unusable. I ended up using the music box in Presence instead. Although it's not a realistic music box sound, I was able to at least get a nice bell sound that worked well with the song. You can hear it on one of my band's newest tracks called "Welcome to the Game."
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