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  • Meiko is supposed to help host Miku Symphony in October. So, Crypton HAS to finish her 3D model and let us hear at least one of her Append voices by then. We were supposed to have Append news for Luka's anniversary, which was January; I can't believe they underestimated how long everything would take. When Wat said they were in beta, did he actually mean "perpetual beta"? OTL Are we even getting them this year?! I realized the tweet that showed Kaito's V1 voice being edited was from August 2017, but in November 2018 Wat said they were editing Kaito's V3 into V1 taste, did they have to restart at some point?
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    Crypton has a track record of either taking a long time with stuff, or descending something into vaporware (RIP CV04). :/
    Mirley
    Mirley
    Ah, the V3 era was brutal for them. Just speculations, but maybe they want to jump ship and are waiting for their contract with Yamaha to end. Sorry for the bad English =(
    Reminder that today's the last day of the Mikoto and Hime trial if you downloaded them.
    I have to look through one more person's tweets (but I can't finish until after work), but today Amano found out Synth V can't use UNI until 2022 (cause of Yamaha's 5 year contract). But now the question is "if we use the voice, but not the UNI character, can we do it?"
    xuu
    xuu
    I wish more companies would negotiate more favourable contract terms.. it's definitely possible for this to be avoided, but people sign things like this and then a situation like this happens and nothing can be done. He's currently waiting for a response from ST Media I believe, though there's definitely interest.
    Exemplar
    Exemplar
    @xuu You have to remember at the time many of the companies signed those contracts is when vocaloid did not had much in the way of competition. I mean at the time it was pretty much just Vocaloid, Vocalina (korean only and recently died), Alter/Ego (not a super high fidelity engine which is also dead with no new voices in years), earlier versions of CeVIO and Utau. Yamaha is finally facing some real competition and those contracts keeping older characters off those new engines actually give many upstart voices/companies a really big head start. Heck with the right plan and with a bit of luck, a new character could make Miku (who is contractually stuck on old tech for at least several more years) face some very serious competition.
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    Honestly, Miku (and Tianyi) have such an INSANE level of character attachment that no one's touching them anytime in the next decade.

    Meiko and Gackpo might be the ones more realistically facing competition.
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    I can't finish translating all the Tweets tonight, but Synth V is going to have a Korean interface and they are trying to negotiate to get UNI (Korean Vocaloid) (possibly her Append that never happened) on Synth V.
    xuu
    xuu
    About this! SynthV actually already has a KR interface (has done since the preview version). With UNI, the contractural terms made with Yamaha when UNI was released as a VOCALOID mean that they cannot release the same character/voicebank on a different singing synth until 5 years after release (14th February 2022). However, the people who developed her (VocaloidTalks) are potentially interested in SynthV. So, it's possible we could see a VB other than UNI from them. Of course, Kanru has said before that he wants to focus on English/Japanese/Chinese... But Korean has been an officially supported interface language for as long as them and there is significant demand among the Korean community for a Korean SynthV VB. Amano Kei who made the tweets told me he'll talk to Kanru about Korean VBs so it's still quite possible we may see them this year.
    Currently translating an article about a real-time voice conversion software called Voidol (aimed at VTubers). I'm in shock, it beat Crypton's CHERRY PIE to be released first. And it came out of nowhere. Too bad the Windows version doesn't come out til next month.
    This was one of the hardest weeks of my life. On top of sickening non-stop snow and negative degree weather (got a record 54 inches in Feb). My irl friends have been too busy to talk for weeks. I feel like I have no one to vent to and like I'm talking to wall. I wonder if I even have any online friends at all. And the cherry on top of the crud cake is that I just got done falling down half a flight of stairs and skinned my arm. : ( Need a vacation.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    This has just been my experience, so take it with a grain of salt. For me, in the past it's been easy to sometimes feel like I don't have any online friends. In online relationships, mostly all you have are the words other people put on screen. You can't see their faces or hear their voices, so you can't fill the gaps you usually use those things to fill in (i.e., really most of deciding how they feel or how strongly they feel it). If my mood's bad for whatever reason, it's possible to re-evaluate something that made me happy one day completely differently on another one, since my own mood is influencing my faith and how I fill those gaps in (since, being human, I'm still trying to fill them in anyway). There've been a number of times where I've caught myself and, when I really looked at the history of what had been going on, I've found that what I was thinking when I wasn't feeling well really didn't make any sense at all.

    So I guess what I'm trying to say is, you might find it helpful to remember that how you're feeling now isn't how you've always felt, and sometime (probably sooner than it feels like), it'll get better, and you might be thinking completely differently. As I phrase it for myself, the credo I have to remember at such points is that "sometimes, I'm wrong."

    I'm not sure if this is a concern of yours, but probably the best reasons why people don't answer some of your posts is because you're basically the authority on the stuff Wat says around here :). So the rest of us just listen, reflect that we don't have a clue what CFM is going to do either, and hope along with you that we'll get some good news soon.

    I'm sorry about your arm. Winter falls (or summer ones--been dumb enough (given the way it happened) to have one of those) suck. If it's any consolation, I've had lousy weather, too :).

    Edit: Hopefully at least some of that helps and I don't sound condescending or something.... Depending how you read it, it sort of sounds like I'm on a soap box.
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Thanks so much for taking the time to write your explanation, I really appreciate it. It really made a lot of sense and made me feel less depressed, I was feeling very overwhelmed by things out of my control when I wrote the post. I wasn't thinking of it like that at all, what you said is right. Thank you.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    No problem! I'm really glad it helped. :)
    Luka V4X's anniversary is March 19th. Let's pretend that's what Wat meant when he said the Cryptonloid Appends were "for Luka's anniversary". OTL
    Let's pretend the next important date related to the Cryptonloid Appends is Kaito's birthday (Feb 17th).
    mobius017
    mobius017
    That works. And, on the very off-chance that nothing happens...perhaps Wat's just out for ice cream?
    hamano
    hamano
    Hope so. But if not, then I bet Crypton will just announce them on some random day when we least expect it.

    Although Magical Mirai is only around 6 months from now jk
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    I hope it's not in August. ToT I was looking at old Vocaloid Wiki articles for Luka V4X today and getting nervous, Wat apparently kept saying it would release soon, but then keep posting updates after long gaps. What if they're not ready at all and he was really wrong saying it was for Luka's anniversary? Trying to stay sane while waiting. 9_9;
    Hopefully at Snow Miku, we get news about 1) the next Miku Symphony, 2) Sega updating Future Tone with the 2 Snow Miku modules, 3) Cryptonloid Appends. If no #3, then maybe Wat will save news related to it on Twitter after the event... *tired of waiting*
    Wat said in a reply that they referenced Sweet Ann for Miku English and that they "wanted to steadily progress and give it their best at multi-lingualization". *will properly translate tomorrow* Guess we can look forward to new languages from Crypton "soon" (probably like 2 years from now).
    mobius017
    mobius017
    "Reference" as in...something related to how the vb works? How its marketing or something is handled? Multi-lingualization? Also, is that Miku V3 or V4? (I guess I should really just wait for the translation... OTL.)

    Here's hoping for Miku Spanish, though the idea of Miku Klingon makes me laugh :).
    xuu
    xuu
    @mobius017 I'd assume in terms of pronunciation. It's very unlikely they'd reference her for configuration LMAO
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Oops, I had posted this in a rush 20 min before I had to leave yesterday so I had just skimmed the tweet as fast as possible, but it was supposed to be Luka English, not Miku English. I guess I'm so used to Wat only talking about Miku that I wrote the wrong name. I am posting a complete/correct translation to the Cryptonloid/crypton_wat thread in a few minutes.
    MIDI 2.0 has been announced at NAMM, but they need companies to test out the specs before they tell the rest of the world the new standards. It'll be higher resolution, could be used in browsers, have more channels, basically for super techy instruments where you can edit each note a lot.
    PigeonP
    PigeonP
    This morning it was revealed that it, and all devices made past the point of Midi 2 will be very backwards-compatibility focused, so we won't lose use of normal midi any time soon! :D
    (Thank god! Poor vocaloid 1 would've been so hard to use)
    Realized I doubt the Cryptonloid Appends will go on sale on the 30th or 31st, because they will have physical packages, which they would have to announce when they'll be sold in stores. Hopefully we at least get an actual demo or are shown product images within the next week or two.
    Don't update Windows 10! Our 2 computers updated last night, stuck in rollback loop. Only had half of stuff backed up. Freaking out.
    Bascetta
    Bascetta
    I had an issue shortly after a windows update a few days ago and I've spent 4 straight days trying to fix it and make it runable again ~_~;
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