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  • I got the diagnosis, but I have no clue what to do now. It took over a month and finally getting it was so underwhelming... All that trouble to basically be told what I already knew, except for the important part. I will have to email my question in a day or two after receiving the paperwork. (Sorry for being vague, but I'm not ready to talk about it properly.) I feel like I wasted a month being very sad/wishing for help and getting diagnosed basically didn't change anything. S:>
    I kind of want to import Recotte Studio from AHS (want the phsyical ver that comes with a book), but I don't know how to order from AHS to get a physical. Can anyone help me with instructions? Do I need a forwarding service?
    Rylitah
    Rylitah
    What static-oceans said, but I have a lot of experience with ordering from AHS myself since group orders are hard to come by (iirc only me and Celestrai have ever done them in the past, I usually only do them at the end of the year during AHS' New Years sale though -- though I think that's also when Celestrai does hers, haha).

    AHS ships via EMS, I didn't know if they were still shipping despite Japan Post not shipping to the states rn, but I haven't heard of anyone not receiving their packages lately? They may have switched to DHL for now, but I don't know that for sure. Otherwise, using a forwarding service is perfectly fine too though with how expensive DHL is it might not make too much of a difference vs just using AHS' international shipping. If you go with AHS' international shipping, you need to add this to your cart, there's further instructions in the item description. If you decide to use a forwarding service, you and PM/DM me for further help if you need it 0:
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Thanks, you two! I really appreciate the help/instructions. I still have to try out the demo before I buy (just been SO BUSY with school that I haven't had time), then I will hopefully take the plunge and order it.
    static-oceans
    static-oceans
    I'm pretty sure they're shipping through Fedex! (I honestly expected DHL too)
    I have no clue what's being alluded to on Twitter recently (regarding something someone did in the Vocaloid fandom that is stirring up emotions), but it seems like people who are already in a dark place emotionally lately/don't want to be triggered should avoid Twitter for a while.

    I really don't want to know and will be following my own advice. S:
    I had a bad dream that I got contacted by an overly cheerful VocaVerse mod telling me I was going to be banned in a few minutes for 1) calling people nicknames (ex: calling RazzyRu "Razz") and 2) posting after my own posts to add details to a thread instead of waiting for someone else to comment before writing again. My eyes shot open in a cold sweat after I wrote a PM back in the dream attempting to defend myself. LOL
    I had plans relating to replying to stuff/posting things on VocaVerse and that definitely did not happen today. Today didn't go as planned at all, actually. orz Sorry about that, hopefully tomorrow.

    Honestly, I've just been having an immensely difficult time concentrating lately due to some irl stresses and being worried about having to go talk to a doctor soon, I feel like my mind is chaos and I keep leaving the computer/having a hard time holding conversations on the computer/losing track of time. Not productive at all these last few days, even though I know what I should be doing. (I just want to say stuff's going on, I guess, I'm trying not to be rude on Discord by leaving repeatedly, but I am not myself lately. I think it will be better when I talk to the doctor, though.)
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    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    As a side vent, I feel so horrible, today we found out the neighbor girl that used to live by us (she came from a troubled family and they moved last year a few minutes away) went missing at the start of the month and it's probably human trafficking related. I can't believe it, she was only 15. I feel so bad for her little brother.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Sorry to hear you're not doing well. I hope you feel better soon!
    I'm dumb. I seriously thought Vocaloid 5 was the only version that actually had a manual, but then I found out that there was one all along in V4 when I looked in the files (it's Program Files (x86) > VOCALOID4 > Editor > Manual).

    It's even got phoneme tables (I could've saved so much time not looking at Vocaloid Wiki over and over back in the day)... Somehow, I never saw anyone ever bring it up even though we would complain about lack of English support/documentation. I actually imported Japanese guidebooks on how to use Vocaloid Editor/Piapro when I started out!!! And yet a manual was there along...
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    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    Piapro Studio also has a manual if that counts? (Kinda poorly edited, but if nothing else the phoneme table is really useful)
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Ugh, where is that?? (Not that it matters since I have the official guidebook...)
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    It was a PDF that came with it. I can't remember exactly where ( i keep it on my desktop at all times lol)
    I've been working on the grammar guide for my learn Japanese through lyrics website. I can't believe I'm 1) writing a "book" and 2) it's about Japanese (the best subject on the planet) just my idols!

    Here's a small preview, probably gonna be a lot longer (like 20 pages or something). I still have to go back and fix the formatting on all of my PDF lessons and song pages, though. This is really tough work!!!


    (There's a clip of one of the song pages in the tweet thread, too.)
    vocaloidcreatornoob
    vocaloidcreatornoob
    日本語でペラペラですか。
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    I don't think I can ever say I am "fluent", more like "conversational". Like, I don't know when people decide to say they are fluent, it seems no matter how many words you learn, there are always more you don't know (like specialized words in different science/art/hobby fields). I read about Japanese grammar in Japanese, can have hour long conversations without having to speak English, I have been translating as a hobby for like 10 years... Is that a good enough answer? ^^; Are you able to speak Japanese?
    vocaloidcreatornoob
    vocaloidcreatornoob
    @uncreepy
    I can speak it but not fluently. If I went to Japan, I could get around. I’ve studied for over 8 years. I know what you mean, there is so much grammar and words I don’t yet.
    I am working so hard on the YouTube "learn Japanese" stuff. Turned the concept I posted on here into a vector. I made like 20 mouths and 20 emotions + some eye poses (need more). Here is what I posted to Twitter:
    I have had weird problems with every single Miku NT update... How is this possible? I can't tell if my copy of NT is cursed or if I am the cursed one. I wait for the day where I try to update and nothing goes wrong/crashes. [Insert obligatory note warning that I recognize not everyone has experienced the same issues with NT, but that doesn't make my problems any less real.]
    Happy to report things have improved since taking a break. n.n Been getting a lot done. Me and my twin have been working on starting a YouTube channel for me that teaches Japanese through strange manga/novels, here is the mockup so far:

    The chibi is of me in a slightly tweaked version of my irl favorite outfit (gothic lolita), there are other eye/mouth poses, but we won't show them yet until we turn this into a scalable vector.

    There is still a lot left to do before the video can be completed, though...
    I feel like I have to do something different about social media + the vocal synth community. I am getting so upset/depressed about stuff that I am barely posting anyway and just skimming notifications/pretending to read them. My bad thoughts are piling up and it's not fun anymore.

    I am afraid to miss seeing how everyone is doing/see what they have to say and create, but I have so many things I dislike about this community that it's affecting my real life. I think I want to just quietly pop into the VocaVerse forum/Twitter to see if I have any important PMs (translation related projects or people just wanting to chat about non-vocal synth life stuff, I guess), but avoid starting any conversation or reading anything that will upset me. I will still be on Discord daily, though (I also said I'd do the Japanese manga thing on Friday). I just feel like the forum/Twitter create pressure for me.

    One main thing that has been really bothering me is child-exploitation related art on Twitter of certain synth characters. Some of the big community members/companies retweeting stuff like that disturbs me. Some people who share things like that keep reaching out to me and I put up with it because of my translation position, but it filled me with self-hatred. Just being in this community for a couple years and I can honestly say this is the most traumatized I've felt looking at artwork out of any other community (I would rather turn off the mature filter on FurAffinity... at least they're legal!). And recently people have been targeting me for my opinion on Miku NT (PMing me, 2-3 people having conversations about why they don't agree with me, and getting long rants from individuals trying to convince me to love everything about Crypton/NT). It's ridiculous to argue over what I equate to liking chocolate milk or not! I paid money for NT, I think I have a right to review it!

    Anyway... I feel so "over" Crypton because of the NT debacle, thinking about all of the disgusting Miku drawings I've seen (some of it officially endorsed by Crypton), and thinking about the time/energy I've wasted on my Wat thread which ended up being filled with misinformation... I'm sick of people being either really depraved otaku or really aggressive about their opinions or selfish about voicebanks and things like that. (End rant.)
    Aia
    Aia
    I'm really sorry to hear that. I exactly know how you feel. These past few days have been really bringing me down, especially with all these heated and petty arguments sprouting from nowhere. Though what I'll never know what you went through, so I just hope you take care of yourself, whether that may be leaving or taking a break.
    lIlI
    lIlI
    Eeesh, that sucks. It sounds like the images you're seeing go against Twitter's terms of use, it might be worth reporting them here if you haven't.
    CdrSonan
    CdrSonan
    I‘m really sorry that happened to you, there really are times where a way to un-see things would be good...
    I don‘t think I can imagine how all of this feels to you, but I hope things get better and most importantly that you‘ll be better soon!
    They never teased a small scale Kaito figure based on the crowdfunding, did they? (Like what they did for Meiko: Vocaloid merchandise news )
    mobius017
    mobius017
    I had a quick scan back through Twitter, but I didn't see anything. A bit at the end of the article from that post seems to indicate that there wouldn't be anything at the moment, but it could be something they're working toward as a future possibility:

    そしてまだ先の先になりますが、MEIKOだけでなくKAITOのフィギュアも作っていただけるよう、各所調整を進めていければと思います(*`エ´*)b
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Strange thing is, I thought I had maybe seen something like that, but I'm not finding it at the moment.
    Ever since the semester ended (and I stopped caring about the Wat thread), I've gotten SO much free time, it's insane. I don't even know what to do for fun and have just been doing chores. I was thinking really hard about what I used to do before getting into vocal synths and I realized that I have been seriously neglecting anything lyric/visual kei related. That's the reason I learned Japanese. I would just look at beauty men and learn lyrics for hours every day.

    I think I let synths take over way too much in my life and I was feeling bad about it. I think that I need to seriously revisit some old lyrics I translated, go to v-kei blogs, flip through my Cure magazines, and just sit down and translate some songs I've sacrificed in favor of (gag) Wat tweets. Really feel like I lost a huge part of my spooky-loving, over-the-top self. I'm getting tired of people trying to get me to agree about vocal synth stuff if I complain even a little (like Miku NT's quality) or being under a microscope in the community, I was used to being completely alone for years and just doing Japanese by myself. I mean, I got what I wanted in the community (working my way up) but at the same time sort of feel like I sold my soul.

    Not sure how to explain it, I guess. Not quitting vocal synth (that would never happen), just in such an uninspired dry spell that I feel like I don't even know why I wanted to make original music in the first place. Maybe if I go to my music roots (lyrics), I will go back to normal.
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    tbh I don't get why people would come after you for criticizing Miku NT's quality considering reception seems mixed at best :(
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    I don't know... Every time I make a tweet thread complaining about crashes/features I have an opinion about, someone well-known in the community keeps PMing me to try to change my mind! I bought her, why can't I complain that things didn't go as expected? I feel like kind of embarrassed, too, because tons of people like my "dumb" threads so I can't help but feel like they're taking what I say too seriously, because of the whole "translating Wat stuff for years" thing. Or if I make a tweet thread, people in the community make their own tweet threads directly in response to it defending NT's honor or agreeing. Like, I just am a professional complainer, it's not that serious. Ahhhg!
    Not vocal synth related, but I was looking at my old Word doc with my "witch story" on it and have a couple favorite parts. Here's one of them:

    I imagined my mother taking some delicious, warm cinnamon rolls out of a giant oven deep within the castle. Other chefs would be darting around the kitchen, mixing dough and sprinkling things on top of freshly baked items, pushing around carts stacked high with fancy treats. My sister would swoop in with a bag of frosting--mm, I could almost smell it, and taste the warm frosting which melted a little once it hit the surface.

    I really wish I was a writing wizard and could hurry and finish this story. But I keep getting too busy and have been stuck at 20 pages for a long time.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    I remember creating the first story I wrote seriously back in college. I'd work on it sometimes in the evenings after class or in free time on weekends, but I also used free time I had while waiting for classes to start or over lunch. Before class started was easier because I had a notebook handy, and I could obviously copy that work onto my computer later. During lunch, though, when it was harder to spare my hands, I'd shadow write--I'd literally write passages, sometimes even short chapters, in my head. I often did the same one multiple times, if I didn't have time to transcribe it in the interim. Each time was usually slightly different, because I'd forget some things and add others. And there was more than once that I was disappointed when I sat down to actually recreate such content, because I didn't think it came out as well. But I think the exercise was good, and I did find and solve some problems by shadow writing things before I actually wrote them. You might find either of those approaches helpful, or at least fun ways to pass minutes you can't spend otherwise.

    The passage you have looks good so far!
    If NT doesn't end up getting Cherry Pie, I want to apologize ahead of time for creating the thread that contributed to giving the impression that we would get Cherry Pie as an NT effector. I feel really horrible about it and like it's my fault people might have "wasted" their money and won't get Cherry Pie.

    I feel so bad I don't know how to get over this, and waiting for a reply from Wat I know I probably won't get. So I expect to suffer until the full version of Miku NT is released as my personal little underworld. I know people are waiting for me to ask that letter on behalf of non-Japanese producers, too, I keep putting it off because I am so immensely stressed. I hate Crypton so much right now and how poorly they handle everything all the stinking time
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    To be honest, the way Cherry Pie was promoted really did make it seem like it could/would be bundled with NT. So don't beat yourself up for assuming things.
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    I feel like I the level of pain I am feelings can't be understood, because I spent two years and so, so, so many hours translating and it turned out to be pretty worthless. I don't think anyone could relate to that level of "dedication" unless they were a wiki editor or something, but then imagine that most of what they wrote was incorrect and therefore devastating. It was fun at first and I know people appreciate the translations. But I feel truly stupid and like I wish I could wash the whole thing away from me, I sullied my uncreepy name by being a stupid crypton_watologist (uncreepy = the name was me and my sister used after giving up on art and talking to people for 5 years and it was a name that embodied our personalities), but now I just think back to all the times I got angry over stupid software we barely new anything about. I really don't know what I was thinking, I had several times where I was about to quit and I wish I had followed through. I think I'm more emotional about it because of all the bad stuff going on in the real world right now, but I don't know what to do to feel better. At this point, music and Voiceroid and translating is not fun and is stressing me out a lot, especially since I gained like... 30 followers in maybe 2 weeks over Crypton-related things and I feel like I'm under a microscope and people have expectations for me. Sorry for venting.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    You may be right--two years and untold hours of work are an awful lot to compare to. But it seems like one of the things you're upset about is all the work and suffering you went through, and the fact that it didn't ultimately result in the goal you'd hoped for.

    It didn't last for over two years, but I've had somewhat similar situations come up a few times; the most recent, I think, occurred in more sporadic segments over the past 10 months. It sucks every time it happens. I'm not sure there's anything I can say that will make it feel better, but the feelings of demeanment, foolishness, disappointment, and anger do pass. (In my case, it took 4 days to a week.).

    To the extent that you blame yourself for how you're feeling, I think you're being too hard on yourself. I think it's desirable to dream about things and work toward them, even if that means following news and trying to bring it to other people rather than building a product yourself or something. It's natural to get invested in it. It's admirable to try to keep things as factually honest as possible, which was your policy in the thread even if the connection you saw between Cherry and NT was incorrect. And when these sorts of things fall apart, it's inevitable to feel disappointed and even to regret the whole thing. To an extent, I find it comforting to view things in this mechanistic cause/effect way when things like this happen--being comfortable with who I am, it's comforting somehow to see that things came about logically from situations that occurred around me, because it makes the universe seem less capricious.

    I think there's honor and character in how hard you worked and in the way you worked/the effort you put toward separating fact from opinion in the discussion in the thread. You should be proud of those things, even if the ultimate goal you had of preparing for eventual ownership of Cherry Pie evaporates. I can't speak for Twitter, but I think your reputation on VVN, at least, is much more based on those things and the tremendous service you've provided people here by bringing them information that they couldn't get for themselves, rather than whether you were right or wrong about Cherry being bundled with NT. If the 30 new Twitter followers feel differently, then they basically only followed you for a convenient source of info about a hot topic, and such a tangiential, self-serving connection should be easy-come-easy-go from your point of view.

    I feel like I've probably said too much, because quiet time for a sort of grieving for the disappointment is probably the best way to feel better. But I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that no one here thinks less of you because of any of this, and we just hope you feel better soon.
    @Exemplar This robot maid reminded me of when you talked about replacing Pepper's Ghost and also about the Mirai Komachi robotic head.

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    Exemplar
    Exemplar
    I've had seen LCD screens used for eyes in masks before. Mostly fursuit masks tho.
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Yeah, I've seen those fursuits before. I've never seen it on an anime mask before... Or an anime mask on a robot maid who rolls down the hall while you hold her hand. LOL
    Exemplar
    Exemplar
    The concept I was exploring for performances was basically a kig-idol but using illusionary techniques to produce a 2d effect in a real life 3d environment. The kig-idol idea has been explored with Tsukasa Uduki, but she has been on hiatus since early this year

    Just hit me how weird the whole Crypton thing is right now. Got a flood of followers in one day, constant notifications/messages (like 20+ at a time). It just started out as an innocent question ("What's the process Western producers use to get commercial approval from Crypton?") and it opened an immense can of worms relating to language barriers, cultural differences (doujin vs commercial), paranoid/upset fans...

    The question of the new Miku NT agreement requiring permission for commercial use on top of me unraveling Western producers' "dirty little secret" of not knowing HOW to get permission just... crashed down together in the perfectly timed storm. Only 1 popular Western producer has stepped forward explaining what they did, but no one else has other than 2 Japanese users.

    I know popular Western producers are watching because I'm getting notifications of them liking my thread as it develops. I just hope this ends up having a simple resolution that will satisfy fans.

    I finished the 1st letter asking about NT vs Vocaloid and will send it tonight. Will work on questioning about permission in a day or two.

    Another question is the fact that Crypton missed the 20th deadline for Miku NT. What is going on?!?! I feel like everything is bizarre right now and like I'm not in control (even though I have power in the situation, as in I can contact them in Japanese.) Wow!
    Please help (and please read the thread for 2 additional posts on the matter)
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into the Karent thing. I ended up getting it confirmed by a 2nd Japanese user about there being only 3 ways to get permission for commercial use. But none of them mentioned Karent. I was under the impression that Karent was an invite only type of website, but maybe I'm wrong.
    parallax_fifths
    parallax_fifths
    mobius017
    mobius017
    @uncreepy: Mm, you may be right about Karent being by invitation. I don't know one way or the other, but I believe "On Top" is the only Lupin/nostraightanswer song on Karent, and it's a song contest song, so CFM would have known about it. It was the Expo 2018 contest, so I'm not sure what the contest terms would have been; I would think either CFM stipulated that entries could be marketed on Karent after the contest, or they worked out terms with Lupin later.

    Karent aside, it seems like it must be possible to license with CFM in other ways. Lupin also has an album called SYNTECH+ (Its companion album, SYNTECH-, is a self-cover, which I believe means he sings the songs himself.) that includes two songs featuring Miku ("Someday You'll Notice The Evening Colored Horizon" and "Pacify"). The album is sold on Bandcamp, so there must be some licensing worked out for it also.

    @parallax_fifths: Thank you!
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