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  • uncreepy
    I know I have messages to reply to, but I've been feeling overwhelmed and anti-social lately due to some irl crud. I keep forcing myself to attempt to be on social media / opening my messages and closing them, but don't have the heart to reply or put effort into writing detailed posts. I just feel like reading conversations lately rather than participating at the moment. 😢 Sorry for people I'm troubling by this.
    uncreepy
    I'm starting to translate the "VOCALOID: AI" article from vocaloid.com (about Yamaha's deep learning engine with Hibari Misora as its newest voicebank). I'm confused and not far in the article. Did Yamaha have an equivalent to the new Piapro Standalone this whole time?
    xuu
    xuu
    Almost certainly not. Looks more like a continuation of their non-user focused aim for VOCALOID which was to bring back dead singers a la hide, etc. More concerned that they're just using VOCALOID as an umbrella term to refer to everything vocal synth-related they do now.
    uncreepy
    Haven't really been active on here. Got a bass guitar about a week and a half ago (and will be taking both bass and guitar lessons through September).

    I've been playing guitar for a year and a month now. It feels like I've been playing bass for a long time, even though I just got it. I really like it a lot. ^^

    I have a lot of homework for music now and I'm still trying to find my guitar style (focusing on fingerstyle, trying to get into flamenco, not playing metal like I thought I would when I signed up, though).
    uncreepy
    Crypton is offering Nectar 3 Elements for free until the 12th, I finished translating the article about it, but I haven't actually gotten to the step of integrating my Sonicwire and Crypton account. So I will be posting instructions and images probably in the next hour.
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    mobius017
    mobius017
    Probably a newbie comment, but it looks like a good piece of software. Looking forward to your info!
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    I just stuck it on the crypton_wat thread (wasn't sure where else to put it). But it took so long to write the guide and figure out where it was in Studio One that I didn't actually get to test it out yet. I was too disappointed by having wasted like an hour trying to find it when it was in a different tab in Studio One the whole time. :{ That was legit painful.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Ooh, ouch, yeah, I hate when that kind of stuff happens; it's so frustrating. Only consolation in that case is at least you found it--it wasn't like it didn't show up for some reason.

    Thanks for the pointer to your guide!
    uncreepy
    I'm kind of behind on replying to some forum posts. Hopefully I can catch up today. ><
    uncreepy
    Looks like iTunes is getting shut down and is breaking into 3 sections for podcasts, TV, and music. Don't know the details on when it's happening or what it all means.
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    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    I'm an old fogey who still uses an iPod, so I'm not impressed by this news. :P
    mobius017
    mobius017
    On the upside, it should theoretically narrow the search results--if you want music, you don't have to look around all the TV shows, podcasts, apps, etc. I personally have a few grievances with the iTunes store and how it handles search/display, so maybe that stuff will finally get better.
    ThatGirlMyra
    ThatGirlMyra
    Glad I dont use iTunes then.
    uncreepy
    I found the guy who conceptualized and is in charge of creating all aspects of Crypton's Cherry Pie and Vocal Drive. His name is Ryo, he's been working at Crypton since 2013. I have to translate a couple more things before sharing. A lot of vocal synth techno-babble. Found it because I was wondering if Crypton's quiet because 1) Their software is like CeVIO and too large to be sold to consumers at this point, or 2) The software will be like Voidol but more sensitive (as in, they both have some sort of condensed deep learning data due to the fact that Voidol is a $7.99 app, and they both convert voices in real-time).
    uncreepy
    Meiko is supposed to help host Miku Symphony in October. So, Crypton HAS to finish her 3D model and let us hear at least one of her Append voices by then. We were supposed to have Append news for Luka's anniversary, which was January; I can't believe they underestimated how long everything would take. When Wat said they were in beta, did he actually mean "perpetual beta"? OTL Are we even getting them this year?! I realized the tweet that showed Kaito's V1 voice being edited was from August 2017, but in November 2018 Wat said they were editing Kaito's V3 into V1 taste, did they have to restart at some point?
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    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    Crypton has a track record of either taking a long time with stuff, or descending something into vaporware (RIP CV04). :/
    Mirley
    Mirley
    Ah, the V3 era was brutal for them. Just speculations, but maybe they want to jump ship and are waiting for their contract with Yamaha to end. Sorry for the bad English =(
    uncreepy
    Reminder that today's the last day of the Mikoto and Hime trial if you downloaded them.
    uncreepy
    I have to look through one more person's tweets (but I can't finish until after work), but today Amano found out Synth V can't use UNI until 2022 (cause of Yamaha's 5 year contract). But now the question is "if we use the voice, but not the UNI character, can we do it?"
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    xuu
    xuu
    I wish more companies would negotiate more favourable contract terms.. it's definitely possible for this to be avoided, but people sign things like this and then a situation like this happens and nothing can be done. He's currently waiting for a response from ST Media I believe, though there's definitely interest.
    Exemplar
    Exemplar
    @xuu You have to remember at the time many of the companies signed those contracts is when vocaloid did not had much in the way of competition. I mean at the time it was pretty much just Vocaloid, Vocalina (korean only and recently died), Alter/Ego (not a super high fidelity engine which is also dead with no new voices in years), earlier versions of CeVIO and Utau. Yamaha is finally facing some real competition and those contracts keeping older characters off those new engines actually give many upstart voices/companies a really big head start. Heck with the right plan and with a bit of luck, a new character could make Miku (who is contractually stuck on old tech for at least several more years) face some very serious competition.
    DefiantKitsune
    DefiantKitsune
    Honestly, Miku (and Tianyi) have such an INSANE level of character attachment that no one's touching them anytime in the next decade.

    Meiko and Gackpo might be the ones more realistically facing competition.
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    uncreepy
    I can't finish translating all the Tweets tonight, but Synth V is going to have a Korean interface and they are trying to negotiate to get UNI (Korean Vocaloid) (possibly her Append that never happened) on Synth V.
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    xuu
    xuu
    About this! SynthV actually already has a KR interface (has done since the preview version). With UNI, the contractural terms made with Yamaha when UNI was released as a VOCALOID mean that they cannot release the same character/voicebank on a different singing synth until 5 years after release (14th February 2022). However, the people who developed her (VocaloidTalks) are potentially interested in SynthV. So, it's possible we could see a VB other than UNI from them. Of course, Kanru has said before that he wants to focus on English/Japanese/Chinese... But Korean has been an officially supported interface language for as long as them and there is significant demand among the Korean community for a Korean SynthV VB. Amano Kei who made the tweets told me he'll talk to Kanru about Korean VBs so it's still quite possible we may see them this year.
    uncreepy
    Currently translating an article about a real-time voice conversion software called Voidol (aimed at VTubers). I'm in shock, it beat Crypton's CHERRY PIE to be released first. And it came out of nowhere. Too bad the Windows version doesn't come out til next month.
    uncreepy
    This was one of the hardest weeks of my life. On top of sickening non-stop snow and negative degree weather (got a record 54 inches in Feb). My irl friends have been too busy to talk for weeks. I feel like I have no one to vent to and like I'm talking to wall. I wonder if I even have any online friends at all. And the cherry on top of the crud cake is that I just got done falling down half a flight of stairs and skinned my arm. : ( Need a vacation.
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    mobius017
    mobius017
    This has just been my experience, so take it with a grain of salt. For me, in the past it's been easy to sometimes feel like I don't have any online friends. In online relationships, mostly all you have are the words other people put on screen. You can't see their faces or hear their voices, so you can't fill the gaps you usually use those things to fill in (i.e., really most of deciding how they feel or how strongly they feel it). If my mood's bad for whatever reason, it's possible to re-evaluate something that made me happy one day completely differently on another one, since my own mood is influencing my faith and how I fill those gaps in (since, being human, I'm still trying to fill them in anyway). There've been a number of times where I've caught myself and, when I really looked at the history of what had been going on, I've found that what I was thinking when I wasn't feeling well really didn't make any sense at all.

    So I guess what I'm trying to say is, you might find it helpful to remember that how you're feeling now isn't how you've always felt, and sometime (probably sooner than it feels like), it'll get better, and you might be thinking completely differently. As I phrase it for myself, the credo I have to remember at such points is that "sometimes, I'm wrong."

    I'm not sure if this is a concern of yours, but probably the best reasons why people don't answer some of your posts is because you're basically the authority on the stuff Wat says around here :). So the rest of us just listen, reflect that we don't have a clue what CFM is going to do either, and hope along with you that we'll get some good news soon.

    I'm sorry about your arm. Winter falls (or summer ones--been dumb enough (given the way it happened) to have one of those) suck. If it's any consolation, I've had lousy weather, too :).

    Edit: Hopefully at least some of that helps and I don't sound condescending or something.... Depending how you read it, it sort of sounds like I'm on a soap box.
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Thanks so much for taking the time to write your explanation, I really appreciate it. It really made a lot of sense and made me feel less depressed, I was feeling very overwhelmed by things out of my control when I wrote the post. I wasn't thinking of it like that at all, what you said is right. Thank you.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    No problem! I'm really glad it helped. :)
    uncreepy
    Luka V4X's anniversary is March 19th. Let's pretend that's what Wat meant when he said the Cryptonloid Appends were "for Luka's anniversary". OTL
    uncreepy
    Let's pretend the next important date related to the Cryptonloid Appends is Kaito's birthday (Feb 17th).
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    mobius017
    mobius017
    That works. And, on the very off-chance that nothing happens...perhaps Wat's just out for ice cream?
    hamano
    hamano
    Hope so. But if not, then I bet Crypton will just announce them on some random day when we least expect it.

    Although Magical Mirai is only around 6 months from now jk
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    I hope it's not in August. ToT I was looking at old Vocaloid Wiki articles for Luka V4X today and getting nervous, Wat apparently kept saying it would release soon, but then keep posting updates after long gaps. What if they're not ready at all and he was really wrong saying it was for Luka's anniversary? Trying to stay sane while waiting. 9_9;
    uncreepy
    Hopefully at Snow Miku, we get news about 1) the next Miku Symphony, 2) Sega updating Future Tone with the 2 Snow Miku modules, 3) Cryptonloid Appends. If no #3, then maybe Wat will save news related to it on Twitter after the event... *tired of waiting*
    uncreepy
    Wat said in a reply that they referenced Sweet Ann for Miku English and that they "wanted to steadily progress and give it their best at multi-lingualization". *will properly translate tomorrow* Guess we can look forward to new languages from Crypton "soon" (probably like 2 years from now).
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    mobius017
    mobius017
    "Reference" as in...something related to how the vb works? How its marketing or something is handled? Multi-lingualization? Also, is that Miku V3 or V4? (I guess I should really just wait for the translation... OTL.)

    Here's hoping for Miku Spanish, though the idea of Miku Klingon makes me laugh :).
    xuu
    xuu
    @mobius017 I'd assume in terms of pronunciation. It's very unlikely they'd reference her for configuration LMAO
    uncreepy
    uncreepy
    Oops, I had posted this in a rush 20 min before I had to leave yesterday so I had just skimmed the tweet as fast as possible, but it was supposed to be Luka English, not Miku English. I guess I'm so used to Wat only talking about Miku that I wrote the wrong name. I am posting a complete/correct translation to the Cryptonloid/crypton_wat thread in a few minutes.
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