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AmazingStrange39

AmazingStrange39

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  • AmazingStrange39
    This site is only 4 years old, isn't it? Was it made as a VocaloidOtaku successor or something?
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    MagicalMiku
    MagicalMiku
    I joined vocaloidotaku back in 2014, but if I remember correctly, it existed since 2009 :yuki_lili:
    maple
    maple
    See the section "Announcements and rules -> Feedback and suggestions". You can ask there.
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    I joined VO waaaaay back in 2010, but I think it had existed for a year by then. VO used to be a big hub for the Western fandom, but it always had a reputation for attracting and/or causing drama (mostly within the Pocaloid Lounge, an "anything goes" subforum which was less moderated than the rest of the site), which I think ultimately caused the board to slowly fall by the wayside after around 2012/13. (But saying that, I don't think the rise of social media helped either. Sites like Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr and Twitter really took the wind out of traditional forums by 2013). Among a good chunk of the Western fandom, VO was a joke of a site.

    I must admit, I did enjoy the last few years VO was around because it was a lot more peaceful than before, but it probably helped that most of the drama llamas that were causing problems had left either the board or the fandom in general by 2014. The board shut down in 2018 because the owner couldn't afford to keep running it anymore, with how low engagement had become on there. And that's where VV came into the picture! :happy:
    AmazingStrange39
    Does anyone know what the deal on commercial use of Miku is? Like, is it that you can't use her design at all without permission and you should just draw an original character, or is it just the official art (and the stuff on piapro) that that rule applies to and if you want to draw Miku for your album cover you can? I've gotta distribute my stuff eventually, you know...
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    pico
    pico
    Creative Commons is one of the greatest inventions to come to the web.
    Vector
    Vector
    It's kind of a mess, especially since the characters are dual licensed under Creative Commons BY-NC and the Piapro Character License, which are very different and translating legal documents is a fool's errand. For what it's worth, if you dig through the Japanese character guidelines (don't trust Google Translate for specifics!) there's a whole section where they outline that they essentially consider YouTube activity non-commercial doujin activity (even if you're in the YT Partner Program).

    I've noticed that a lot of western artists will use art based on Crypton characters for music videos, but when they link out to Spotify or whatever, their album art does not contain them. Kira, for example, uses original art of Miku heavily in 4Blood and Digital Girl, but the corresponding album art is just the title.

    So...YMMV, but Crypton isn't in the business of nuking the entire creative community of artists who want to buy their synths. They're not particularly articulate about their expectations on the western sphere, but they also aren't going around issuing takedowns on music videos. Album art on commercial streaming services is more likely to be an issue. They also state on the Sonicwire purchase pages that Crypton won't respond to commercial usage requests outside of corporate entities with established works (i.e. record labels).
    AmazingStrange39
    AmazingStrange39
    Ahh, alright. So I can put Miku on YT and SC but I shouldn't put her image on Spotify. Got it.
    AmazingStrange39
    AmazingStrange39
    I think I'll always be more comfortable using vocal synths in English over Japanese. Japanese may be easier to tune and require much less phoneme editing, but it's a lot easier for me to come up with/understand and tune for English lyrics. I'm not gonna stop using Japanese vocalsynths (I need to put my Japanese knowledge to use + I don't want my JP Miku banks to just sit there), I'm just saying that particularly in the case of original songs, English is easier for me as a native speaker of the language.
    AmazingStrange39
    You guys ever make a song that sounds pretty but you don't feel you can do much with it? Happens to me all the time. Sometimes I work on a song and the creativity just flows, but sometimes it just doesn't feel quite right.
    AmazingStrange39
    I think at this point I should stop relying on automatic programs to mix for me. I think I've learned enough from observing Neutron 3, and if I can tune myself I can mix myself.
    AmazingStrange39
    I bought Miku V3 English after her V4. I think some producers had Miku V3 English before V4 came out and once V4 happened they just abandoned V3
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    Nokone Miku
    Nokone Miku
    I also bought V3 after I already had V4. I've been finding that using Cross-Synthesis (XSY) with her V3 and V4 English voicebanks has been useful. If V4 isn't quite sounding the way I want it to or isn't pronouncing something quite right, adjusting the XSY parameter can sometimes help.
    AmazingStrange39
    AmazingStrange39
    That is true! It's also useful as a "poor man's tone shift."
    AmazingStrange39
    Current mood: Feeling bad because Miku V3 Eng sounds better saying [f r O@] than [f l O@] for "floor" and I've been trying to AVOID that kind of phoneme editing
    AmazingStrange39
    AmazingStrange39
    it's less the L itself and more the vowel being pronounced better with the R...which is pronounced like an L. MIKU WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR MOCKERS RIGHT
    AmazingStrange39
    AmazingStrange39
    honestly, give saki fujita some respect, she tried her best to record in a language she was pretty unfamiliar with
    AmazingStrange39
    Hey guys, I found an instance of myself planning my future Vocaloid producer presence back in 2019, how cute

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    P-name: Diatom-P (ダイアトムP), phloem (ふろえむ)

    Vocal synths currently owned:
    Kasane Teto, Defoko (UTAU)
    Eleanor Forte, Yamine Renri (SynthV)

    Wish List:
    Hatsune Miku, Megurine Luka, KAITO, Kagamine Rin, GUMI, AVANNA, OLIVER (VOCALOID)

    Genres: Indie, pop, electronica, house, DnB, chill

    Present:

    P-name: keisouP

    Vocal synths currently owned:
    Hatsune Miku (V4X, V4 English, V3 English); AVANNA (V3); SONiKA (V2) (VOCALOID)
    Kasane Teto (UTAU)
    Chis-A (VoiSona)
    Any Lite vocal (SynthV) (I lost my Renri code ;_;)

    Wish List: Hatsune Miku V3 Light/Vivid, Miku V4 Chinese, Luka V2 or V4X, KAITO V3, Rin/Len V4X, Gumi Native/English

    Genres: Indie-pop, electronica, indie dance, indie rock, DnB, house, electropop
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