Mika

Mika

crying over Rune Factory 5 24 From Germany
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  • Mika
    Did I preorder the limited edition of Calli's new LP? Yes I did. Did I scream while doing it because the website constantly crashed thanks to everyone swarming it at the same time because Calli said it's super duper limited? Yes I did. Did I get it? Yes I did 😎 Now I only have to wait 3-4 months for it haha
    Mika
    soo.. I put Chis-A into random song I thought would suit her. I didn't do anything to it, no edits no tuning no nothing. It's just the plain notes.
    Decided to go with her 1.0.0 voice, kinda like it the best even if the differences are subtle.
    Then I chose to just render her with all 3 freeze/export types... and the result is.. interesting??

    can't get the google drive player to work so just take the link to it

    The first one is her with the default, the second is her with 1.0.0 freeze and the third is her with 1.1.0 freeze.
    I like the sound of the 1.0.0 freeze the best but for some reason it suddenly gets super raspy and growly in the high notes????? But other than that it sounds the cleanest. The default one is fine. I do not like the 1.1.0 one, she somehow sounds wet? as if her mouth is full of saliva and her throat slimy. Kinda icky.
    Mika
    The longer I listen to the new Cevio voice, the more I think it's actually Flower. I have seen people say "yeah well but the icon doesn't show Flower". Yeah, but that can be a placeholder especially because the image looks like the Techno Speech mascot. Also, I haven't forgotten Gynoid talking about Flower's voice actor suddenly sounding like Flower naturally when they recorded her talk bank, while Flower's Vocaloid banks were voiceacted. So, Cevio Flower could just be what Flower sounds like if she's not voiceacted which resulted in this way less raspy and muffled and instead smoother sound.


    There is also this comment under the sneak peak:

    That account belongs to a company that does sell Vocaloids and other music related products and, well, they are followed by both Gynoid's and Flower's twitter account.
    So you know... the connection is definitely there. But either way, I'm probably gonna buy this voice even if it turns out as someone else because I LOVE THIS VOICE.
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    luwo
    I'm like... 90% convinced this is flower. I mean, just look at Xingchen AI, there's an audible difference between her Vocaloid and SynthV bank, but her most recognisable tone and characteristics still remain!

    EDIT: after prism's comparison, consider it 100% LMAO
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    Prism
    Prism
    Going to post her talk samples for comparison.
    Mika
    Mika
    ohhhh! The tone is really similar to her talk bank! Yeah, that makes me now like 99.9% sure that it's Flower but without any voiceacting.
    Mika
    I'm so sad... there is a still affordably priced auction for Rune Factory 3 on ebay currently going on but the seller only ships to US and Canada 😭 god dammit I really want RF3 but it's so damn rare nowadays, the only copy available in my country is listed for 150€...... and all the other ones I can find are either from Japan or even more expensive American ones, I hate this so much
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    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    the pain of living in the EU u_u
    Kazumimi
    Kazumimi
    Is it possible there's a proxy/forwarding service that will buy from the US and ship to the EU? :luka_move:
    Mika
    Mika
    I haven't seen one that also does auctions but maybe I'm blind lol. The auction is over now anyways and went up to 148$ so uhm. Just as expensive as the other listed copies.. Rune Factory fans are crazy
    Mika
    Started tuning my cover project this morning and Cevio is surprisingly fun to use??? Why did no one tell me how easy it is compared to Vocaloid lol. Working with Airi is really fun, can't wait to get back home and continue. I'm just already worried about the mixing, I suck at it and have no clue how to get the noise less noticable hmmmm
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    Mika
    Mika
    I think I'm done with Airi's part??? wtf??? this would take me a week in Vocaloid and I spend like 4 hours today maybe in Cevio?? I'm a fan now wow
    Mika
    I think I want to try to cover the Project Sekai version of Shoujorei with Mayu, Cangqiong and Kizaki Airi. It's gonna be interesting to have to work with 3 different programs lol. Also gonna be my first time using Cevio oh boy

    :cangqiong_lili: :kizakiairi_lili: :mayu_lili:
    Mika
    I've been thinking about the current possibilities of voicebanks a lot recently. We've been making huge steps forward in making voices sound as close to their source as possible but it's always been very.. clean voices. Unique ones, but they have one particular voice quirk or singing style that can be recreated more or less easily. But I've been wondering if this might also be possible now for voices and singing styles that are more.. all over the place without it just sounding weird?? As you guys might now I really love Fukuwa's voice and way of singing but he quickly switches from a pretty singing voice to a rough and and kinda scratchy sounding one, to growls and weird pronounciations etc. Back in the day I always thought you'd have to create multiple voicebanks to recreate this but maybe it would be possible now with AI and enough training? But I also wonder if it might get annoying if the style switches in places where you don't want to but you can't really do anything against it 'cause AI. Hmm. I'd love to see an experimental voicebank that does something like this. Even if it would never be released, just a test to see what is even able to be made currently.

    This probably didn't make any sense at all lol
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    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    I do remember when unity-chan came out, they said they aimed to recreate (both in unity with the vocaloid lite engine and then the real vocaloid deal) a "vivid" tone as in, kinda like what you said
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    Mika
    Mika
    @Prism yeah that's kinda what I thought, but I'd still be curious how far we can push the technology right now and what even might be possible in the future to not make it sound weirdly random. XSY had a huge potential for this actually, since nowadays we can use parameters for power and softness in most programs but there is no way to just change the tone and singing style with parameters. Having 2 different voicebanks in different styles and being able to merge them tho.. But well, they got rid of the feature and making multiple voicebanks is expensive and time intensive.
    Prism
    Prism
    You can merge them outside of the editor with morph or vocalshifter
    I do miss xsy and think it was a mistake that they didn't include it for V5. Especially when it was kinda the gimmick for V4 so many banks got appends. I don't know for sure but i think I heard on Twitter that they are looking into developing an ai xsy solution for synth v.
    Mika
    soo.. how exactly do I buy Cangqiong? I really want to get her before she gets even more expensive but taobao is definitely confusing
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    PSX
    PSX
    There is a guide! Kazumi made one Here!

    I don't know if the guide still works since it was written in 2020, but it doesn't hurt to try
    Rylitah
    Rylitah
    There's another guide I know of that someone made a couple weeks ago. Don't know how well it works since I haven't used it (or have a need to), but if the other one is outdated then it's worth giving this a shot!

    They differ in that Kazumi's seems to be focused on making your own Taobao account and coolkiwiii's is about using a third party to order it for you. Both definitely have their uses depending on which way you wanna go about it.
    Mika
    Mika
    bought her! thank you guys, now it will only be a few days until I have her :cangqiong_lili:
    but dear god she really is expensive already
    Mika
    The new Synth V update got me screaming. I finally have a reason to get Cangqiong!!! I can already see myself spending all my money on Synth V next year orz
    Mika
    Oh damn Anri's voice is amazing.

    About her looking so young... it really just depends on the outfit. I'm a fellow baby face person and depending on what I wear I can look either 12 or 25. Just recently it hit me again how young I look to others. I've been working almost 2 months now, and some of our customers talk to me informally and I'm like ????? how young do you think I am when I work here at opening hour huh...... I will also never forget the bus driver legit asking me if I need the adult or child ticket. The adult ticket is from 14 onwards. I'm 23 lmao. Or the charity people who asked me if I just came from school. "No from work." "ooh so you have a part time job?" "No. I'm an adult. I've been out of school for 4 years" "what". Having baby face is a curse 😔
    Mika
    I don't want to be mean but.. wtf am I looking at. This is.. ugly on another level. That Single cover artwork is so bad.
    Hippi deserves better.

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    PSX
    PSX
    Actually, thinking about it, it looks like a christmas music album cover. That’s what her album art reminds me of
    WyndReed
    WyndReed
    That really looks like a newbie MMD modeler made it rather than a seasoned or pro did it.(Which I’m assuming 1st Place would have the money to hire.)
    Mika
    Mika
    I also want to clarify that if this exact model was fanmade I would actually be impressed, making 3D models is not easy and taking some of your free time to spend hours on a 3D model just for fun is very admirable. But the person who made this was hired, it's literally their job and for that.. it's bad. There are so many professionals who are able to make the 3D model look exactly like the 2D artwork but the 1st Place models.. don't. At all. And going for a different style would be fine too if it would at least look professional..
    Mika
    maybe a bit random, but why is it so difficult to find a nice looking, good fitting bra that doesn't cost a fortune (and that's made out of cotton because for some reason that makes it even harder).😒
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    MillyAqualine
    MillyAqualine
    ^This, thank God in France you can still get bras without included push-up and that look and feel good enough, but mygad, when being in Spain I had trouble finding a SWIMSUIT without these push-up pads 😩 However they're smart enough to make these removable (otherwise I'd be choking and feeling overcompressed )x.x"( )
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    Mika
    Mika
    @MillyAqualine gosh I feel you. Sadly, here in Germany every time I remove those stupid pads the bra becomes too flimsy... the material itself isn't strong enough to hold anything : ( I hate it, makes me want to get rid of them just so I have 1 worry less ugh
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    I can't wear normal bras anymore because of sensory problems, so I just live in those sports bra/crop top things that cover everything people don't want to see, and keep the girls in place. It's better than scratching my back in public because of itchy bra hooks lol.
    Mika
    Guys!!!!!! Guess who will soon officially have a job?! That's right, it's me!! I'm so glad that I will finally earn some money
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