Unpopular Opinions

[mahalisyarifuddin]

Seriously this community need to shut the hell up and not whining about something that they're not being targeted of. If you are not the target audience, then you are not the target audience. The mentality of "I am the real target audience so you producers needs to obey me, or else, you're not gonna be successful" needs to stop.

 

[Blue Of Mind]

Seriously this community need to shut the hell up and not whining about something that they're not being targeted of. If you are not the target audience, then you are not the target audience. The mentality of "I am the real target audience so you producers needs to obey me, or else, you're not gonna be successful" needs to stop.

To some extent, this is true regarding the Kafu drama since she's clearly supposed to be aimed at Kaf's established fans, but the general complaints in the Western fandom focus on her obvious quality issues. On a more subjective note, I don't like voice types like Len and Piko all that much, but I would never bash the VBs or their fans for not being the voice types that I want. Same thing with producers making songs in genres or styles I don't like. If I don't like a song, I just move on and look for something else to listen to. Complaining about not being the target audience for something is a waste of time, considering how diverse the Vocaloid/vocal synth fandom is in terms of VBs and songs.

 

[___]

The Rin and Luka versions of Record Red are equally good and I like them both equally too.

 

[ikaroll]

I’ve spent some time listening to Yukari Rei, and-

I don’t really like how she sounds in what i’ve heard

She just sounds higher pitched compared to Vocaloid Yukari?? And more breathy?? It just doesn’t sound right to me

really is a shame, since Yukari is a favorite of mine, and Rei has a pretty design

 

[Jaxonloid]

-I prefer the current vsinger vocaloid scene over the cryptonloid one. Better concerts, all the vsinger loid's get equal amounts of opportunities, vsinger's vocaloids get lots of advertisement etc.

-for some reason i don't care much for english voicebanks

-meiko v1 > meiko v3 (idk, i just love her robotic tone)

-gachapoid is good

-unique tuning styles > realistic tuning

 

[Overcast Immortal]

More on realistic tuning, when people say "realistic tuning" they usually mean "extremely ornate tuning". Not every live singer decorates every note with loads of tone changes, volume changes, vibrato, and pitch bends. Sometimes live singers do very little in terms of these things, and that can be an effective choice.

 

[ikaroll]

-gachapoid is good

I agree. Him and Nemu have unique sounding voices among the JPN Vocaloids and its a shame that i barely see any usage of their voicebanks

 

[peaches2217]

I love Sasara's outfit, but to me, it looks like a nightgown. If they added in a belt or an accessory or SOMETHING, I think it would look a lot more complete, but as it is, I couldn't imagine wearing it out and about during the day.

 

[___]

I love Sasara's outfit, but to me, it looks like a nightgown. If they added in a belt or an accessory or SOMETHING, I think it would look a lot more complete, but as it is, I couldn't imagine wearing it out and about during the day.

PEACHY TOLD ME THAT IN THE CHAT AND I WAS MINDBLOWN

like???????????????? yea this is nightgown

at least it looks comfy! I wish Sasara sweet dreams

 

[frankensalad]

maybe I'm just crazy, but I thought the nightgown feel was intentional. I always remember that official art of Sasara laying down and looking at the camera with a slightly bemused look on her face. I think Sasara might just be sleepy.

 

[Leon]

Oh I've always been super down for Sasara's casual gown look, but it's a good point

 

[ikaroll]

Kind of Project Diva related, but the original outfit for Meiko before they added her V3 was horrendous

1) It didn’t look much like her V1, and
2) it just.....didn’t look good overall

 

[Ronny777]

Kind of Project Diva related, but the original outfit for Meiko before they added her V3 was horrendous

1) It didn’t look much like her V1, and
2) it just.....didn’t look good overall

YA I booted up my copy of project diva Extended on the PSP and her bust and top looks a little weird droopy looking but the rest looks fine. Her head looks nice with the psp graphics tbh. I tried taking a picture of the screen with my phone but it just looked like a pixelated mess lol

 

[Blue Of Mind]

Probably not that unpopular, but I'll mention it anyway: I actually like it when Miku has a more mature tone to her voice, and I'm not just talking about her Dark and to a lesser extent, Solid appends. Even during the period where only the original Miku V2 existed, I always liked it when Miku was tuned in a way where she didn't sound like her default cute voice. (Case in point: Aozorized by Nayuta.)

 

[ikaroll]

I always liked it when Miku was tuned in a way where she didn't sound like her default cute voice.

SAME. I just like it when Vocaloids aren’t tuned to be cute all of the time. It gets old very quickly (and makes some Vocaloids sound downright horrendous) I think the only time I like “cute“ sounding vocals is in a song thats supposed to be very creepy or something

 

[ThatGirlMyra]

I think Leon sounds good with almost every female Vocaloid. I've heard him with a lot of them over the years and other than SONiKA, he sounds great with them all. I doubt he'd sound good with painfully immature Vocaloids (like, say, Kagamine Rin) but for the most part, he compliments them all fairly well.

 

[peaches2217]

I actually adore Blue Crystal, Meiko's outfit for Nostalogic. Is it tacky? Yes. Is it something Meiko would proudly wear, with no shame? Heck yes.

 

[ikaroll]

I know “realism” is supposed to be the focus of vocal synths, but the banks that you can t e l l aren’t human are the ones that will stick out to me. Realism kind of takes away the fun of using computer software for vocals (if I wanted vocals that sounded real I‘d sing a song myself)

 

[___]

This isn't directed @ anybody above, it's just that this conversation reminded me of this, ya'll are cool:

I've noticed that the vocal synth community had been very dismissive towards the works of those who take the realistic or more specifically "ornate" tuning approach with their songs and covers as of late.

It's okay to have a preferences as to how vocal synths are approcahed but turning up your nose at it, when it takes so much labour and time to develop such skill, is rather stuck up.

For example I am the exact opposite of VocaloSynthesis, I see no fun in enhancing their roboticness, I enjoy the challenge of wrestling vbs into realism jhgvfcd but Liar Gentleman is still one of my all-time favorite Teto originals, because it works for the song. One approach isn't superior to other, it's a matter of what works best for the song.

 

[ikaroll]

It's okay to have a preferences as to how vocal synths are approcahed but turning up your nose at it, when it takes so much labour and time to develop such skill, is rather stuck up.

I do apologize if thats how my message sounded, I do appreciate the work people do to make their vocaloids/other synths sound realistic, I was just stating that robotic vocals are my preference.

Some of my favorite vocaloid songs have realistic tuning, so I have no problem with it (except for the nagging feeling that I stick out with my weird, roboticy tuning style among everybody else)