VOCALOID VOCALOID 5 news
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@Kona I'm excited too! I obviously have my SONiKA bias, and I'm really happy they didn't entirely shoot me down. Whatever they're gonna do, I'm really excited to see them make V5 work.
And they'll probably still have that connection given a probable financial bond between the two. Either way, given how much V5 can do, I wouldn't think many people would use it over V5.
And they'll probably still have that connection given a probable financial bond between the two. Either way, given how much V5 can do, I wouldn't think many people would use it over V5.
I would fight for a SONiKA and Avanna update. Also, it would be exciting since no native English banks have been updated. I am sad that Internet is currently saying no plans for V5 wheresmygumienglishupdateinternetco.
No, it won't do that. What Missy/Leon meant was you'll still have the V4 editor, so you can use XSY there if you have to. The V5 editor won't change itself to add XSY when you use XSY-capable banks, orz
I'm almost positive an update with happen for english Gumi. They mentioned they were working on one earlier so they were probably getting it ready for this engine instead of the previous.
And since mostly everyone loves using or hearing Gumi English I have a feeling they will definitely get V5 just for her.
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I hope that Yamaha will one day start doing standalone starter packs or at least have it for their VY vocaloids only each. (I want VY2 only, okay?
Has anybody been following the stuff on Twitter about messing with the vocal files btw? I think it might bring up some interesting points. Is that even legal to talk about here though,,
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Basically one figures that V2-V5 banks are, at their core, the same (even if rendering styles differ). I won't go into the logistics of how because that feels very illegal but people have ported V2s into V5 and used growl and vocal fry on them without issue. Perhaps more interesting, is that V5 voices have also been ported into V4. Tfw your editors have forwards compatibility as well as backwards?? Lol
I'm sorry, I believe one of us has misunderstood the other somehow. I didn't mean to say that XSY would appear if you selected a V3/4 bank, I meant it's still a functioning option in the V4 editor with V3/4 voices ^^;; Yeah, it's not a thing in V5 anymore, sadly.
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It is super against the terms of use to mess with the program files and can corrupt your vocaloids.
Definitely. I should specify, I'm not encouraging people to do it. It's just interesting to me that it's possible, and actually pretty simple to pull off. V5 banks appear to differ very little, if at all, from V4 in the end. The editor is much different and tbh pretty amazing from what I've seen, mind, but the banks themselves? Perhaps not so different.
Ah, yeah, Rylitah explained it. I'd been reading your "V4" as more like the Vocaloid 4 platform (as in the Vocaloid 4 API) and "V4E" as more like some V4 English bank (just because that's generally how I use those abbreviations)...which somehow made it seem like those would behave differently in the V5 Editor than actual V5 voicebanks. (Actually, that's something I've had to keep in mind for this whole thread--V5 is being used to refer to the Editor, rather than the API version. And while lots of the new/exciting features could be part of the API, some of them seem like they'll be specific to Yamaha's editor, too.) Anyway, it's all good--more my fault than anything else :).
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Haven't seen the V2>V5 thing much on Twitter, but people on Vocaloid Amino seem...kinda obsessed with it. I love V2 as much as everyone else and I get why people want to use the shiny new features on Vocaloids that has an unknown/lower chance of being updated, but I also get software ages and you need to let it retire eventually.
Besides if you really love your V2s, you'll just deal with the past editors instead of feeling the need to hack them into
Hoping Yamaha patches that and whatever bugs V5 has soon enough. I've already saved up about half of what I need to upgrade to Premium lol
Besides if you really love your V2s, you'll just deal with the past editors instead of feeling the need to hack them into
Hoping Yamaha patches that and whatever bugs V5 has soon enough. I've already saved up about half of what I need to upgrade to Premium lol
Ah, different communities, different tastes. Don't worry, since I don't own any V2s, I don't care about this "converting" method.
Are VSR (?) files that you make in V5 compatible with V4? Just for the sake of adding XSY to an already V5-tuned song.
Are VSR (?) files that you make in V5 compatible with V4? Just for the sake of adding XSY to an already V5-tuned song.
If you're asking if the V4 editor can understand the VPR files produced by the V5 editor, then this comparison of the V4/5 editors indicates that it can't. V4 can only read "VSQX、VSQ、MIDI(SMF)、[and] WAV" files.
You could maybe do the XSY in the V4 editor and then open that VSQX in the V5 editor, but I don't know if the XSY would be retained inside the V5 editor or not (since there's no XSY in V5). If you felt like trying it out, I'd be really interested to hear what happened. But that's totally up to you.
Thanks @summers50! Ooh, that's too bad. Which primary/secondary Vocaloid did you try with, by the way?
Cool, that should be about as conclusive a test as we can have--two banks from the same generation of a single Vocaloid. Looks pretty clear that, at the moment at least, XSY is gone. Thanks, @summers50!
Yup, that makes sense, too. Especially if you tried layering a Style on an XSY, maybe, things could get nuts in a hurry.
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Oh, @summers50, do you remember seeing what kind of Style options you got on Miku? Were they all there, a limited set, none?
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My theory is that xsy might be obsolete once we get to know this thing.
Everything was there. I was able to use everything. the new air/breath parameters can probably turn any bank into a legit soft/whisper bank. vocal fry, attack release, styles, the works.
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it took away my xsy so it doesnt sound as good to me(my vsq is in covers section) but a single parameter (air)changes it to whisper. theres also breath parameter is really good now too.