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VOCALOID Crypton new Miku NT ver.2, Miku V6 and Piapro Characters Super Pack

kimiworld

Aspiring Fan
Jul 11, 2018
27
It is normal for the plan to be delayed. I assume that Miku V6 will be released sometime around August 2025. An earlier release would be ideal, but based on past experience, delays may be inevitable. Please do not disappoint me as NT and SP did, as (in my opinion btw) they made no significant improvements compared to the original V4X/V3.
 

kimiworld

Aspiring Fan
Jul 11, 2018
27
A new demo of Miku NT2 has just been released for the Dark voicebank.


It seems like the Dark voicebank sounds a bit metallic and synthetic to me, in which like any existing NT voicebanks, is still not a satisfying voicebank, in my opinion. Hopefully, it's just my individual hearing issue.
 
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Vector

Passionate Fan
Mar 6, 2022
178
It sounds comparable to V4X to me, though stylistically more like standard Miku than a "dark" bank.

It lacks reverb or other typical vocal processing, so it's a little rough, but not out of the ordinary. I'm thinking maybe...less nasal than the regular NT but kind of boxy or boomy? Not quite sure, but I'm sure it would clean up a bit with EQ.

But as long as they're making alternate voices, that's definitely a good thing.
 

pico

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Sep 10, 2020
577
Tonally I don't think it diverges meaningfully from the rest of NT2, but as a user I do think I would prefer for the color of the voice to be more extreme ("darker"). I think it will be the same as NT2 'original' where the voice is fuller/rounder than NT1 in the mix, but yeah, I think the main thing is that it NT dark has never felt enough like a strong distinct voice delivery for me personally.

For me, the biggest draw of NT is the user interface and workflow, which is at least to me being pretty clearly developed to expand usability and expression for concatenative VBs. Treating them like their own thing/art form. For this reason I think it'd be interesting to see them lean more into expression now that the tone is more stable.
 

MagicalMiku

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Apr 13, 2018
2,023
Sapporo
Known Issues and new Piapro Studio NT2 0.9.4.0 available :miku_ani_lili:🎁🎈
-[Added on Feb. 19] When "Voice Voltage", "Super Formant Shifter", or "Voice Drive" are applied to multiple tracks, an unusually high CPU load may occur, leading to processing delays or unstable operation.
Workaround for:When "Voice Voltage", "Super Formant Shifter", or "Voice Drive" are applied to multiple tracks, an unusually high CPU load may occur, leading to processing delays or unstable operation.
As a temporary measure, it is recommended to reduce the number of tracks where these effects are applied simultaneously or to bounce (render to audio) the tracks to reduce the load.
We have released the Piapro Studio NT2 0.9.4.0 updater.
We have just released the Piapro Studio NT2 version 0.9.4.0 updater.
This update includes the following changes and fixes.
[Update Details]
-Added a new Voice Color “Neutral” to the Voice Library “Original”.
-Added a Voice Library “Dark”, which is compatible with Voice Color. (Accent, Power, Neutral)
-Fixed other several issues.
 

MagicalMiku

♡Miku♡
Apr 13, 2018
2,023
Sapporo
Special Program at Japanese University about Miku NT(●'◡'●)💕🎀
ⓘⓊSpring Open Campus Information🌸
☻Date and Time: 3/23 (Wed) 10:00-13:00
☻University/Entrance Exam Explanation + Special Program + Individual Consultation
☻Special Program Thinking about "Hatsune Miku NT"! Crypton's co-creation ecosystem
Special lecture: 11:00-12:00
Thinking about "Hatsune Miku NT"! Crypton's co-creation ecosystem
Crypton Future Media develops a variety of services and content, starting with virtual singer software such as "Hatsune Miku NT," such as "music distribution services," "vocaloid music labels," "submission and collaboration sites," "3DCG live shows and exhibitions," and "character goods development." We will introduce the co-creation ecosystem in which these are interconnected, influence each other, and grow as a whole.

Speaker: Koizumi Seido
Crypton Future Media Inc. / SONICWIRE Music Business Team Team Manager
Born in 1987. Originally from Sapporo, Hokkaido. Joined Crypton Future Media Inc. in 2008. SONICWIRE Music Business Team Team Manager. In addition to developing businesses for music creators, such as SONICWIRE.COM, SONOCA, KARENT, ROUTER.FM, and nodee, he is also a core member involved in promoting AI research for music creators and the promotion of virtual singer product projects.
 
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MagicalMiku

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Apr 13, 2018
2,023
Sapporo
8/30 vocaloid 6 Miku release date reveal trust
it really depends on the kind of issues Yamaha is having with the Vocaloid 6 engine, but I think a spring release (or at least, a presentation of the features and the box art) is more likely:miku_sakura_lili: then for summer/early autumn maybe Miku NT2, since the Early Access development is going well :miku_ani_lili:
 

Vector

Passionate Fan
Mar 6, 2022
178
I imagine it's something both Yamaha and Crypton want to make absolutely sure is going to be in an acceptable state, given how big of a deal it is for both of them to release a new Miku bank on Vocaloid after close to a decade.

It would be a PR disaster to have something like early NT happen, instead of something representing Vocaloid 6 at its best. So I'm not surprised to see delays.
 

kimiworld

Aspiring Fan
Jul 11, 2018
27
I imagine it's something both Yamaha and Crypton want to make absolutely sure is going to be in an acceptable state, given how big of a deal it is for both of them to release a new Miku bank on Vocaloid after close to a decade.

It would be a PR disaster to have something like early NT happen, instead of something representing Vocaloid 6 at its best. So I'm not surprised to see delays.
That will be good if both Yamaha and Crypton are being especially careful with Miku V6's release, but I don't want to set my expectations too high, especially given Crypton's recent NT voicebank-related release. I appreciate the incremental improvements in the NT voicebank, but showcasing a demo that has left an unsatisfactory taste in my mouth makes me more cautious now.
 
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kimiworld

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Jul 11, 2018
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MagicalMiku

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Apr 13, 2018
2,023
Sapporo
A major update for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" will be released on Tuesday, March 18, 2025.
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Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2) , which has been available to everyone as an Early Access (beta) version , will be released as a major official update around 12:00 on Tuesday, March 18, 2025.

In addition to the features offered in the Early Access version , the major update version of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" will feature an improved "Automatic Control" function that makes settings even more intelligent and easier, as well as adding a new voice library, "Whisper," and Voice Color.

"Automatic Control" is a support mechanism that allows you to easily control the singing style.
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Piapro Studio NT2 operation screen included in the major update version *This is subject to change as it is still under development.

By simply selecting a few pre-prepared items such as your singing style and nuances, multiple adjustment items such as pitch curve model, pitch curve, vibrato, consonant length, and voice color will be automatically set without you having to worry about the details. Of course, you can also add and adjust each item from there. It will be easier to express your ideal singing voice.

Free for existing users. Crossgrade pricing will continue.
Existing users of "Hatsune Miku NT" can obtain the major update version of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" for free, just like the Early Access version. The currently released Early Access version of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" is already available for free.

We will also continue to sell at a crossgrade price (15,400 yen including tax) to owners of Hatsune Miku products in the VOCALOID series. If you don't own "Hatsune Miku NT," please consider taking advantage of this opportunity to purchase it.

Distribution of the installer/updater for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)" will end
All installers/updaters for the current "Hatsune Miku NT" (for convenience, referred to as "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)") will no longer be available on our website upon the release of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)".

However, you will still be able to use the already installed "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)", install/update using the installer/updater you have downloaded, and activate "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)".

The main features are as follows.
■ "Original DB++" voice library tuned specifically for the M9 engine
■Creator support tool "Piapro Studio - Automatic Control"
- Automatic pitch assignment
- Automatic vibrato
- Automatic adjustment of consonant length
■Various parameters updated for the new engine
- Note Gain
- Consonant Rate
- Dynamics
- Breathability
- Super Formant Shifter
-Voice Voltage
- Pitch Control
- Voice Drive
- Voice Color

<How to install for regular users>
Please see the installation instructions on the special page.

The development team is currently working hard on the final adjustments for the release of the major update for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)". We ask for your patience until the release of the major update for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)".

(translated from the official Sonicwire blog post):
 

SeleDreams

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Jul 31, 2019
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A major update for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" will be released on Tuesday, March 18, 2025.
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Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2) , which has been available to everyone as an Early Access (beta) version , will be released as a major official update around 12:00 on Tuesday, March 18, 2025.

In addition to the features offered in the Early Access version , the major update version of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" will feature an improved "Automatic Control" function that makes settings even more intelligent and easier, as well as adding a new voice library, "Whisper," and Voice Color.

"Automatic Control" is a support mechanism that allows you to easily control the singing style.
View attachment 8433
Piapro Studio NT2 operation screen included in the major update version *This is subject to change as it is still under development.

By simply selecting a few pre-prepared items such as your singing style and nuances, multiple adjustment items such as pitch curve model, pitch curve, vibrato, consonant length, and voice color will be automatically set without you having to worry about the details. Of course, you can also add and adjust each item from there. It will be easier to express your ideal singing voice.

Free for existing users. Crossgrade pricing will continue.
Existing users of "Hatsune Miku NT" can obtain the major update version of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" for free, just like the Early Access version. The currently released Early Access version of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)" is already available for free.

We will also continue to sell at a crossgrade price (15,400 yen including tax) to owners of Hatsune Miku products in the VOCALOID series. If you don't own "Hatsune Miku NT," please consider taking advantage of this opportunity to purchase it.

Distribution of the installer/updater for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)" will end
All installers/updaters for the current "Hatsune Miku NT" (for convenience, referred to as "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)") will no longer be available on our website upon the release of "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)".

However, you will still be able to use the already installed "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)", install/update using the installer/updater you have downloaded, and activate "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.1)".

The main features are as follows.
■ "Original DB++" voice library tuned specifically for the M9 engine
■Creator support tool "Piapro Studio - Automatic Control"
- Automatic pitch assignment
- Automatic vibrato
- Automatic adjustment of consonant length
■Various parameters updated for the new engine
- Note Gain
- Consonant Rate
- Dynamics
- Breathability
- Super Formant Shifter
-Voice Voltage
- Pitch Control
- Voice Drive
- Voice Color

<How to install for regular users>
Please see the installation instructions on the special page.

The development team is currently working hard on the final adjustments for the release of the major update for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)". We ask for your patience until the release of the major update for "Hatsune Miku NT (Ver.2)".

(translated from the official Sonicwire blog post):
That means that people should backup the Miku NT V1 installers
 

MagicalMiku

♡Miku♡
Apr 13, 2018
2,023
Sapporo
yes, I made sure to put that part in the translation, which is important. Backup both the original installer, any update files you have and also backup the main folder where you've installed (you can use software like 7zip to create a .zip file of the folder) :miku_ani_lili:
 
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SeleDreams

Hardcore Fan
Jul 31, 2019
278
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yes, I made sure to put that part in the translation, which is important. Backup both the original installer, any update files you have and also backup the main folder where you've installed (you can use software like 7zip to create a .zip file of the folder) :miku_ani_lili:
from what i can see, when downloading og NT from the sonicwire account it directly dls the latest version 1.0.0.8.

Looking at my google drive I already backed it up a long time ago anyway.
 

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