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Leon

AKA missy20201 (Elliot)
Apr 8, 2018
979
Nope, still crashed when I changed the [Q] to [@] and added [Sil] at the end :/

Perhaps if I broke the note up so that the following note was still "safe". I'll get back with you on that.

EDIT: Now this is interesting! Even with this setup, it still crashed

Tonio wyd.PNG

EDIT2: I even tried a third thing where I made the three notes in question go like [m @] [Q n] [s t @r]. Obvs that'd sound super weird (maybe not so bad if the note was super short, but still), but I was just curious what it would do, and it still failed. I can't understand it :0
 
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Leon

AKA missy20201 (Elliot)
Apr 8, 2018
979
Wow, that is really interesting. Does adjusting the [s t @r] note do anything? Like its pitch?
I thought for sure that would, but funnily enough with this setup:

Tonio why.PNG

It still refused to play! Note that the second, slightly lower pitched "monster" has the schwa, and when that was the only one in the phrase with it, it played fine. As I said before, the word "on" later on in the song is on the same note as the first "mon" there, and plays fine. This issue seems to occur in any part of either chorus, and I've p much given up on using the [@] for that particular phrase :P

According to the wiki it can happen on any note, it's just much more frequent above D3. I think.
Really! How strange! I could've sworn ZG's site specified that it should be fine below D3, but I could be remembering wrong (or, to be fair, they might be wrong themselves haha). If this is the case, then my understanding of exactly how Vocaloid sampling and octaves/recordings must be fundamentally wrong :0
 

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Mar 25, 2018
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I thought for sure that would, but funnily enough with this setup:

It still refused to play! Note that the second, slightly lower pitched "monster" has the schwa, and when that was the only one in the phrase with it, it played fine. As I said before, the word "on" later on in the song is on the same note as the first "mon" there, and plays fine.
Huh, interesting. Maybe the [m -> @] transition is rather particular about its pitch position. Or is it something different, such as having the [@] sound twice within a phrase causes the issue? Quite a particular glitch.

This issue seems to occur in any part of either chorus, and I've p much given up on using the [@] for that particular phrase :P
Better safe than s@rry!
 

Leon

AKA missy20201 (Elliot)
Apr 8, 2018
979
Huh, interesting. Maybe the [m -> @] transition is rather particular about its pitch position. Or is it something different, such as having the [@] sound twice within a phrase causes the issue? Quite a particular glitch.

Better safe than s@rry!
It seems touchy indeed! I tried with just the first [m -> @] and not the second one, btw, so it isn't that it was twice in the phrase. I genuinely have no clue! I had considered dropping all the notes in the area down a bit to see, and if it played then I'd mess with PIT, but that's tricky business to do over and over again in a somewhat repetitive chorus...

Alternative workaround. Tonio's British accent means that his [{] sounds somewhat similar to [@] or [Q], so using that actually sounds kind of okay? A little flat maybe, but not bad. I had sent a raw render of just pronunciation edits to a friend who doesn't mess with Vocaloid at all, and she said she understood like 90% of what he said but specified that if I could edit how he says "monster" then I should so... we'll go with this for now ^^;;
 

Leon

AKA missy20201 (Elliot)
Apr 8, 2018
979
Maybe you could try [e r]? not ideal but may work for it
Oh, for the second syllable, the [s t @r] part? Actually, since [@r] is a different phoneme than [@] is, that one has no issue at all. Thank you so much though :)

I actually remembered OPE just now, and using the build [m { n s t @r] but cutting the OPE of the [m { n] by a little over half, it sounds just fine. All this work for nothing, cause I just swapped the phoneme in the end... :clara_ani_lili::ROFL:
 

RawBeansP

feng yi supremacy
Apr 8, 2018
108
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elsewhere looking for oarfish

this is from Yoshizawa, the dude who left AVA a few months back. He mentions that a seahorse rival named ViNO was planned, I believe he was a male counterpart to Lumi. But how he phrases it sounds like it's a dead project which is sad, bc AVA has been really quiet since he left. But I still think it's really interesting that they planned more fish loids!
 

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Mar 25, 2018
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I tried my hand at translating it. I'm not a pro at Japanese or anything as I have to use a plug-in/dictionary for words I don't know a lot and sometimes look things up, but this is what I have. If anyone learning or speaking Japanese would like to correct me, feel free to.

I am also speaking it with confidence, but to everyone who congratulates me, thank you.
The truth is it has really helped. There is one last thing of unreleased news; there was a rival for Lumi. A boy called ViNO that is the close aide of the youngest princess of the seahorse civil official(s).* What kind of appearance he had I leave to you...
*I suppose maybe this is something like this: He is the aide of the youngest princess of the kingdom of seahorses.

Really interesting concept.
 

DefiantKitsune

Lonely kanon fan
Apr 11, 2018
621
(if wrong place sorry)

Can anyone tell me if they are running Prima in a 64 bit windows OS? I've considered buying her in the future, but I've heard she can have issues
 

Kona

Avanna's #1 Fan
Apr 8, 2018
813
USA
(if wrong place sorry)

Can anyone tell me if they are running Prima in a 64 bit windows OS? I've considered buying her in the future, but I've heard she can have issues
I don't have her personally, but I do know something running her on a 64 bit Windows 10 computer perfectly, so you should be okay.
 
Trying to decide whether I want to buy Clara and Bruno or just Clara (probably will this november)
If I remember right, you can get Bruno & Clara as a free bonus for buying MAIKA on VoctroLab's site.

So, what new voices come soon?
I know of
- Zing
- Yan He V5
- Yuezheng Ling V5
- Cryptonloid updates (Miku V5)

Are MAIKA Power and Ausgris still a thing?
 
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If I remember right, you can get Bruno & Clara as a free bonus for buying MAIKA on VoctroLab's site.
That may be just a trial. I think her limited edition box came with trials of Bruno & Clara in a physical box. I'm not sure if any other edition does. Looking at her site, it doesn't seem like it.
 

Kona

Avanna's #1 Fan
Apr 8, 2018
813
USA
If I remember right, you can get Bruno & Clara as a free bonus for buying MAIKA on VoctroLab's site.

So, what new voices come soon?
I know of
- Zing
- Yan He V5
- Yuezheng Ling V5
- Cryptonloid updates (Miku V5)

Are MAIKA Power and Ausgris still a thing?
Actually, Maika only came with Bruno and Clare free as a bonus one year during her birthdat and at her initial release with her limited edition. It is rare she comes with them now, best to watch for her birhday.

Also, I don't believe Maika Power/Soft were a real thing. They were just test voicebanks to show off Voctro Labs' project Voiceful. They weren't even confirmed as Maika or confirmed to release, but it was her voice provider, so I believe that's where the confusion comes from.
 

First Sound Future

Passionate Fan
Apr 8, 2018
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So, what new voices come soon?
I know of
- Zing
- Yan He V5
- Yuezheng Ling V5
- Cryptonloid updates (Miku V5)

Are MAIKA Power and Ausgris still a thing?

The Status page on the Vocaloid Wiki helps in times like this. Here are other Vocaloids that might be coming;

- Zero-G's mature rock vocal (I think the last time we heard anything about it from ZG was on October back in 2015... Its fate might have become the same as Avanna's male counterpart or maybe it was moved to V5)

- With Ausgris, there are also two other potential Vocaloids VocaTone is working on

- Uni Append and Uni English (English's development won't start unless Append is done with)

- Gumi English Update (I think I remember reading that this was supposed to be released in 2016/2017 for V4, looks like it will be for V5 now?)

- Gynoid's new Vocaloid (that first started being planned last month I believe)

I skipped some Vocaloids like COCOROBO and Luniang who might be private and Vivi who might be cancelled/on a hiatus (all her demo songs were deleted last time I checked). Also, personally, I'm not sure how will Ausgris + other VocaTone's potential Vocaloids be released now since PFX isn't in the Vocaloid scene anymore... It made me kind of worried that that might be the reason why VocaTone is quiet now. Not counting the fact that making Vocaloids can be a very difficult task of course, just wondering if they were able to find a solution to who's going to publish their Vocaloids. :/
 

DefiantKitsune

Lonely kanon fan
Apr 11, 2018
621
Somebody tweeted at Internet, they said they have no interest in updating gumi eng rn

Also an awful lot of the vocals mentioned haven't had news in a long while, might be dead... (ie Zing)
 

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