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  • morrysillusion
    was tuning and you know its p nice you can switch versions of voices. was thinking about how Yuma has improved and just put version 104 next to 100 and man. so wild. heres an example from new -> old: yuma_104v100

    these both have the same settings! they have power and solid almost all the way up! along w some breathiness, tensions, gender, and tone shift (all the way up).

    its not even that 100 sounds bad. but i felt back then that Yuma's vocal modes just werent that obvious, and now his voice is SO much more solid. you can still make 104 sound like 100, but instead its kinda just his natural voice? and his vocal modes are just more prominent
    morrysillusion
    aughhh i am struggling with this cover mix. i definitely finally found a vocsynth screamo effect that sounds pretty good buuut i keep tweaking it over and over bc it just doesnt sound exactly right. but i also dont think i can improve this all too much bc its... well, its a vocsynth
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    mobius017
    mobius017
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i have some specific settings I have been using too tho you are free to do something else. I have been trying to get the higher pitched type of screamo, this is what i do @mobius017

    For the singer settings:
    LOUDNESS 5
    TENSION .5
    BREATH .7
    GEN 1
    TONE SHIT 40
    key shift is optional for what you want

    For RV Growl & vocascreamer settings:

    I usually use FL hardcore with the first preset but it doesnt really matter, just whatever you like.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Thank you so much!
    morrysillusion
    i have a cover i wanna get out asap but i am going to draw new art for Yuma-- the art put in the bg of synth v. i kinda completely forgot i had my art in there bc its just normal to me know lol but its a year old.
    morrysillusion
    i took part in a game jam this month so i have been absent from like everything else i wanted to do lol... but i finished a little game demo and im v happy bc its my first game ever to make. i have wanted to for so long, this jam is for the Narrat engine which made it to much easier to realize the kinda game i wanted to make

    edit: i posted the game if anyone wants to see it :)
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    morrysillusion
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    thats interesting!! i have been learning a LOT abt learning methods for all my learning issues rn... its tough and frustrating to try and figure out what works best for me
    Mika
    Mika
    @morrysillusion I hope you never whent through the torture that we call "Eckenrechnen" here. A game loved by primary teachers here. 4 kids go into 1 corner of the room and have to calculate stuff in their head, and whoever gave the right answer first moved to the next corner. Whoever managed to do a whole round or more was the winner. ...guess who never left the starting corner. I hate dyscalculia so much, and even more that it's not taken seriously at all compared to dyslexia 😔
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    oh my godddd holy crap you did open a memory in my mind. jesus. the moment you mentioned going into a corner and progressing..... yeah, we did do that-- at least in 4th grade because thats when we learned multiplying and dividing for the firs time. @Mika it is truly annoying, ppl play it off and throw it around a lot in similar ways to ocd-- like "oh ahaha i hate math! i kinda suck at it!" and its very under-talk about in clinical settings
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    there is a lot of interesting thoughts about hpvsynth's realvoice plugin on places like vi-control... obvs i think there is a lot of misunderstanding with people outside of this space. but i have had people saying things like "well i will just using realvoice on my own vocal recording for this cover. i think id face copyright problems if i just ripped it from the original singer"

    okay so. lets think about this. of course i or others can react with "but how would they know?" however i will be a bit more deep about it. i mean for one if you can sing it it does feel a little pointless but, despite that. if you used praat and got your pitch bends from the original and you didnt say anything, itd be impossible to argue its not yours, especially with plugins that smooth out all those wiggly accurate lines. and even if you didnt use realvoice... you could still 100% copy it by! hand! yourself!! maybe you just listen by ear and you get it right. and what then? is it still wrong to learn, and want to replicate?
    i like realvoice not even to make constant covers out of, but really just to learn. if youre learning how singers sing from that, or just by ear... it literally just cant be plagiarizing or stealing and trying to apply this to voc synth tuning causes a lot of issues. even without this realvoice stuff people have ALREADY been trying to mimic singers in their voc synth covers. the concern only came up the moment people talked about 'ripping' pitch bends recently. however.... this isnt the first tool to exist for this. vocalistener for vocaloid exists, and people just thought it was the coolest thing (it was hell to use tho) (continued in comments...)
    morrysillusion
    ok i decided i would do that tierlist thing, i think when i last did it it was only vocaloid :P
    (if there was seperate ones for old zola i would have had them higher for sure lol)


    cant seem to get the normal upload working so, hopefully he imgur link works- might need to click for higher quality
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    AmazingStrange39
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    FELLOW AVANNA ENJOYER
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    of course!! she has been such a fantastic voice over all my years of vocaloid... dont know what id do without her. in my own song or others- honestly i think she is a key part of english vocaloid history
    AmazingStrange39
    AmazingStrange39
    she's always been up there in my favorites behind miku, and i finally got her for my 18th birthday (well, money to buy her, not her herself) almost 2 years ago now (which is kinda funny, because 18 is her character age).

    i recently decided to research irish accents, music and culture, mainly to help me use her but also partly out of interest (and appreciation for the irish in my family tree), and that's really boosted her in my favorites (and given me something interesting to talk about with people)
    morrysillusion
    pifuyuu is a god send <3 you should follow them on youtube, they cover so many songs and release all the ust files.
    morrysillusion
    i will prob still be using ritchy's trial but i really do love his singing voice lol... im bad at using the rap, but he is cool for singing which is good! makes him versatile IDK HOW I DIDNT NOTICE AND FAILED TO MENTION!!!! they have vocal modes!!!
    morrysillusion
    got home from a trip to see i got an email from a german youtuber that he saw my Easy On Me cover with Solaria and made a video about synth v AI. its all in german and i can tell from google translate of the description that it also dives into other AI related talk. i would have to hope it doesnt dive into the Wrong assumption of synth v's AI voices tho lol.... he sounded pretty positive about the tech in the email so...! hopefully its fine lol. the guy has very little subs but it is a very professional looking video.

    the video is here:
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    Mika
    Mika
    Skipped through the video and he only mentions Solaria in the beginning as "his best singer in the studio being an AI, not a human". The rest of the video is about AI alltogether, how it works, how it changed and improved/developed and a bit about the panic people have. But I really just skipped around to see if he said much about synthesizers, and not really. Also I really hate that thumbnail, lol.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @Mika yeah that is what i gathered purely off of the chapters listed in the description. and yes the thumbnail is something lmao
    morrysillusion
    had too much happening to make progress on my planned new utau but i really do want to record a new vcv bank since its been almost 2 years being on T now, so i know for a fact my voice as definitely changed lol... i want to make a duet with my new bank and my old bank, itd be a fun comparison
    morrysillusion
    very much appreciate the kind of video that eclipsed sounds made for their updated banks- going into detail about and even point out that the way the vocal modes have changed may affect their quality when maxed (as its beta release i assume theyre working on it- but admitting it is there is good) or suggesting how you could maybe better use these features together.
    morrysillusion
    a cover artist i follow has made a few covers with Yun Quan and boy, i didnt read that it was a cover (it was all in japanese/chinese so i didnt read who it was in the title) and legit took me a hot minute to register it was a synth lol. i hadnt heard her much before this so i didnt expect it. especially because this is the first time in years i have heard a child like voice- the last being kaai yuki or oliver. so to hear that kind of sound being acheived again and having my last reference being those very old banks is wild

    covers:


    morrysillusion
    while there are things to critique about the vocaloid 4 growl function, i just wish we have some kind of growl function in synth v. i even like some of the growl options in v5. to have it *at all* is more useful than to have no options... and i can often get some kinda result out of the vocaloid growl's anyways. we really need that in synth v...
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    IO+
    IO+
    Do tension param in synth v doesn't cut it? Maybe it's just me but i find that is enough, most of the time.
    AddictiveCUL (Add)
    AddictiveCUL (Add)
    Ohh! Someone made a script for that:


    Won't lie, I think it rocks! If I had Kevin I would surely try that thing (Kevin, my beloved! 💘 )

    But I agree, every vocalsynth should have options for glottal effects nowadays. Not just growl, but glottal stops like the "?" phoneme in vocaloid. Anyway, I think soon or late they will add a feature in SynthV since SynthV team is pretty good in what they do (The Rap thing is pretty neat!)
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @AddictiveCUL (Add) i do know about that one! i have used it :') but its good but definitely not as convinient and tbh getting a good result can be a bit of a struggle with how the settings work.... it would be nice to have it as simple as vocaloid's. hpsynth's plugin also reminds me of one of the plugins someone made for v4 that gave more vibrato options and really my problem w this and those it you dont see the change until you hit the button to finish it :/ so the struggle is just. doing it multiple times until i understand how the sliders will work out lol...

    @IO+ not sure how youre using tension but, tension definitely isnt the same gravel-y growl that id need from vocaloid's version and i think any attempt to use it as such would be taking the same method of work from hpsynth's above plugin, but manually lol.
    morrysillusion
    was looking at the v3 ZOLA demo of Borderless.. these guys came out on the Vocaloid ten year anniversary huh? and now their v6 is coming out on their own ten year anniversary? interesting lol
    morrysillusion
    you ever have a band/album that is good but its so like. depressing. that you really cant listen to it much at all even though you really love it and you want to?

    Anyways for me its "Home, like no place there is" from The Hotelier. theyre indie rock/emo. good shit but if i listen i know its gonna make me think about the past and feel bad
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    Yes - Ethel Cain's Preacher's Daughter and Lana Del Rey's Ocean Blvd have a bunch of songs I just have to avoid because they're too evocative and emotional. :kaito_lili: They remind me of issues that hit too close to home.
    morrysillusion
    the eclipsed sounds tumblr has been answering some questions mostly in regards to asterian! some interesting, some noting lite versions. Eclipsed Sounds wasnt sure what thread i could post this in so feel free to post it somewhere lol
    morrysillusion
    found files for a veryyy old Ken cover i did years ago but since took down- was thinking of reposting bc i liked the song. but man it reminds me how much i wish Synth V had a very blatant manual vocal fry function like V5/6 does. the cover i made may have been a... bit intense with it lol. but it really impacted the cover overall, i still like it
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