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  • i love seeing silhouettes for things bc it always makes me imagine whatll fit the image- i had an idea of what Asterian was gonna look like and i kinda wanna draw it now lol... i love his actual design- mine in my head was a bit more out there/unnatural lol. was more lavender/purple focused, *really* long dreads where the tips were super pale lavender/almost white and were like glowing with stardust. his design still gives off the ethereal vibes i had in mind though and i love it
    ooo i was def considering getting asterian's physical bc id love to own a smaller vocsynth physical but hearing a few solaria boxes are left...perhaps i will nab her too if im quick. i have stimulus money i fogot about so i dont feel bad about buying it :P
    i minimized the parameter window in synth v and i. cannot figure out how to get it back. am i stupid orrr
    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    The 3 bars by the Instant Mode button add a parameter panel
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    thaaank you @[email protected] kind of odd. with the arrow on the left side of the windows to minize, i expected it to be there....since its there for the timelines, but i notice there is that and an X. i guess hitting the X is different.
    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    No problem!
    ive been consumed by sonic frontiers and man what a banger sound track. im not done yet but im really really loving the game sooo much as a long time fan. its so good.... finally some good fucking writing
    as much as its automatic to gender the voices off their VA's i actually noticed eclipse sounds' web pages for Solaria and Asterian dont use pronouns for them at all- (fyi this isnt to say theyre the first, i just happened to notice) which i think its nice to see not really from a gender perspective but from like.. a product perspective. they are products/programs first and in the end ppl can use them with whatever gender intention they want. the designs they have for the voices are great for ppl who want to get into the 'character' side of things, while the company speaks of the banks with a neutral sound as to not force it on anyone reading or considering the product.
    this is mostly a guess based on what i see but it really seems like a big issue w vbs getting vocal modes that end up sounding very samey/just like default is that they are ones that were made before vocal modes were a thing, and i imagine they just didnt have the kind of data needed to then makes vocal modes that sounded really different. anri feeling like an obvious example- and id have to assume they *could* record more data but... thats time and money, so theyre probably just using what they have. its a pain seeing this happen- on one hand if you already own the voice its not like you paid for these vocal mode updates, but on the other hand it seems like such a waste and to keep pushing it when we get ones thats just feel pointless. if anything i feel like it just paints the tool as bland when ppl get these kinds of examples too- it can be a great tool when its done properly, but when its not its just a bad example, and a way for the companies to pull people back in for more even when More isnt actually good.
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Will have to disagree with them sounding significantly different even when pushed past 150, they really don't in my ears, and once you start hearing some differences they're past a point of acceptable quality, any differences you hear in them you're better of just using parameters on her.
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    I’m with Patuk here. We’ve experimented with trying to bring out her vocal modes; once you hit 5-600, you start hearing a bit of difference, but moreover, you also hear significant degradations in quality. Anri’s vocal modes I can say with conviction are useless; you really do get better, more varied results with the parameters. I love her to pieces, but those modes might as well not exist.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    its definitely a problem too that Anri's only sound more obvious (which they dont really to me in the end) when you go an manually edit the file's numbers anyways- its not whats intended, and most other good vocal modes are pretty obvious when at the actual editor's limit of 150. the further issue w doing that is there isnt enough data to make them high quality anyways so it seems redundant to use it like that in the end.
    i have been wanting to cover sugar guitar by police piccadilly for yearssss and justr never settled on a voice. but mai.... shes perfect for it and i wanted to try her out since shes free so!! im gonna do that
    i dont run into too many ACE covers but man i love how it sounds- i just havent had energy to try and learn it w the language barrier and whatnot. but i do look forward to the possibilities of english support..
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    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    its pretty easy to get into even with the chinese UI, everything there is laid out pretty plainly and there aren't features hidden away in menus and all that, so it's easy to just develop muscle memory for it
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    oh for sure- familiar enough i could use it just fine i think... but i just dont do enough stuff in chinese and japanese alone, so i havent had many ideas/ways i want to use it yet! so im more so interested in what could come of their cross lang feature if they delve into more english support
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    yup thats understandable :agree:
    would be so cool is synth v upon trying to close with out saving would prompt "do you wish to save before closing?" with a yes/no option. instead of "you havent saved! discard project(close without saving) or cancel". like cant we just make this easier instead of having to cancel closing the project and then saving and then closing again lol? its the little things...
    me: makes a side channel for vocaloid covers so i dont get as much attention like on my main
    youtube: makes my video pop off in 24 hours

    out of ALL videos its one that is causing the most arguements lol. couldnt just pick a normal cover video to reccomend huh
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    haha, yea i was. very quick to post about it! the comments have been wild and i have deleted a lot of the actually bad ones (with ppl really just being assholes lol). but no i feel it... some of the comments feel a bit exaggerated, i think some ppl really heightened their distaste for vocaloid over the years....
    Legally Pipp Petals
    Legally Pipp Petals
    you're more powerful than me 😭 i'd be losing my nerves way more haha

    and definitely, obviously there's always room for criticism and voicing your preferences ( i know i have mine ), but "vocaloid is objectively inferior and bad compared to the current alternatives in every aspect" often feels less like someone's earnest opinion they came to organically, and more like status quo some parts of the fandom feel obligated to stick to.

    also since you were demonstrating the vocalochanger, I do think there are quality differences between using that tool, and using the AI vbs in the editor in old fashioned way, the latter being less riddled with artifacts and engine noise, kinda shame to not see that acknowledged, should be part of the discussion i think ( obviously not shifting the blame onto u )
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    the vocalo change is certainly a mix up for various pros and cons and people seem to not realize that. For one, the vocalo change voice will receive the same or similar inflections of the source voice (Solaria in this case) which may be/are likely different than if they were simply singing the file in vocaloid6... could be good or bad depending on the voice (accents and whatnot). but they also inheret the quality for sure!! all the non-synth tests i did, like rips of existing songs, sounded bad because of that. i think to the untrained ear, ppl just dont realize it would be inhereting the other voice's synthesized sound too. and i guess in a sense being double-synthesized with the fact vocalo change also alters quality to some extent! i slapped vocalo change on an older vocaloid render (v2) and it was very very apparent there for sure.... ppl are def a bit blinded by getting on the hate bandwagon i think
    im having quite a few issues with rendering on v6 (itll render, but i make a change and it like... just gets stuck rendering half way or not at all) which sucks cuz i am enjoying it in a general sense, i probably would be using it over v5 still bc of the UI and also i dont have v5 installed bc i havent used vocaloid enough for me to want it taking up space on my pc right now. but i may need to reinstall bc i really like v5/6 breathiness, very important for me when i do use flower...
    i was going through an archive of an old tumblr blog of mine, it saved every single image i posted and every single image i reblogged. and i found a screenshot of some flower merch i totally forget existed?? im kinda struggling to find more images of this now, not sure if anyone has seen someone who bought them out in the wild... from the layout this listing was on Gynoid's website, and i think the company was beyerdynamic

    so a lotta heavily tuned (generally note bended) vsqx files dont really work well with v6 ai banks? i havent seen anyone mention it. but i have thrown them in v6 and they did not play right at all. seems all the preior vocaloids work w them just fine so... im going to assume its something w the ai ones.
    WyndReed
    WyndReed
    I tried several of the vsqxs that came with IA Rocks and they didn't sound great, but surprisingly the vocalistener vsqx for Justitia that came with Merli sounds mostly okay.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    if the one from merli didnt have loads of short, cut up notes, then that seems to work... like this one vsqx i have- the notes are cut up to put the beginning/end up or down. v6 just will Not play this like at all. not really sure whats up bc the notes are p much just like [4 o] [o] [-] and i know it reads [-]. definitely something about the note length perhaps..



    also i just tested this with a vocaloid bank (non AI) aaaaand its broken too! so thats fun....
    WyndReed
    WyndReed
    Yeah I heard somewhere else that V6 hates short notes, which is really sad cuz you can’t note bend as well.
    i decided id put the..barbie dialogue vocalo change on my wip thread....its just. so funny to me. very clearly, any enunciation is kept clearly- the feminine voices and the way they speak, totally kept! which i think its kinda interesting to realize when you put the effect on vocals... something ti consider when using it
    ive done numerous tests w vocalo change, using ai isolateed vocals because to me some are p damn clean, but vocalo change isnt always good with it still. some turned out alright but idk if i wanna post them on yt or anything... might throw them in my WIP cover thread maybe
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