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morrysillusion
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  • in my early days of covering (2015-16) it often felt like a race to cover songs with myself and ppl i followed or just general ppl in the community. like you had to be the first to cover it with voice x/y/z first and any other cover ppl made w that voice after was irrelevant. i think its what often had my churning out covers and getting burnt out. i mean i had moots commenting :aw man i was gonna cover that with *voice*" etc. that was a common thing. but now i just dont think about ti at all. idc if someone already covered it, my cover is my own. its unique
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    hurts my brain that so much of these were SEVEN years ago
    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    Huh, that's exactly what I deal with. Not because of pressure from other people, but thinking 'well, someone else did it and most likely did it better than me'. But I suppose, no one owns any combination of song or voice. Like, I've seen 3 Solaria covers of Athena and 2 Jun covers of Unknown Mother Goose, and I listened to all of them anyway. They were totally different too. Heck, there's even unsuprisingly 2 Asterian covers of Evermore and admittedly, the other one did it better than me, but they were a more experienced user and I was a minimalist tuner back then.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @PearlStarLight5 its definitely a thing i can imagine ppl think! maybe even not realizing it too, as i never really thought hard about it, just considered it a normal response tbh. and youre right too, i would often listen to multiple covers of the same voice if i saw them anyways, which kinda shows you shouldnt worry about it either.... took me quite a long time to realize that and just make covers without searching to see if someone already covered it.
    i saw a video that was like "what is vocal fry, and why everyone HATES it" and i guess its about pop singers over doing vocal fry but it made me laugh bc vocal synth users have been begging for vocal fry for 20 years
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    even still we dont really have it!! synth v dropped the actual attempt in the old editor and [cl] doesnt really work right. vocaloid 5/6 tried with the attack release but it was weird.

    oddly i think my favorite vocal fry has been people's utaus. which i think is because its literally the VP recording it and so it fits. vocaloid failed at it bc it wasn't the VP's samples, just an effect (much like the bad growls where they reused some basic growl instead of the VP's own). synth v just hasnt revisited it properly
    hey guys..... any vocaloids you want me to draW? just little doodles... and i mean only vocaloids! no other synths (edit to add this will be shared on my fan art thread on the forums)
    dang it, now theres two notably popular vocaloid songs with very similar Blue names (Blue Earth and Blue Planet)
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    from 6 months ago (love Lanndo <3)

    this morning


    this isnt an insult btw. just think its a funny coicidence. deco only posted today so im sure itll gain a lot more traction soon too. actually, its very funny that the thumbnails feel so similar too

    (thinking about lanndo's... kinda wanna cover it but i need to find someone to comm a midi for....)
    i love going and switching around versions of banks in Synth V, its really crazy how much things have changed over the versions... Ryo and Yuma was a really big one when i went back to a very old file. i think most appparent are cross language improvement and also more obvious differences in vocal modes for a lot of them
    can you edit oto's in openutau??? was wondering if maybe it has a more streamlined/easier to use way to edit vb's in program .. always been a hassle for me in normal utau but i havent touched openutau in a long time
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    Twillby
    Twillby
    I've never tried it so I don't know if it's any better, but it looks like you can edit otos when you go to Tools > Singers.
    doing a cover with natalie in japanese and english, and its interesting but she is very 'solid' and strong naturally with japanese, but speaking english she falters. the straight forward and simple phonetics of japanese make it easier to keep that sound i guess, where english is complex with all its consonants mixing in, cutting off the ability for vowels to shine and be belted the same way
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    its a cover of error. i actually wanted to do this w yuma but couldnt get him sounding right but plugged him back in after natalie and. well he sounds good but oh boy, his voice is doing some funky things lol
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    yuma does not react to the japanese .h notes i put when converted to .hh the same way lol......
    also the way the last word faces out isnt on purpose ???? and idk why its happening
    something interesting happens when you export vocals on synth v but tell it to render a track that has been muted. i noticed how it doesnt render any noise obviously, but i didnt realize it does but its... like. horribly corrupted. so it does render a voice? but its all fucked up. weird.
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    pico
    pico
    I've had this happen. I've also had it screw up the gain on the export-- it'll generate it at max gain and it sounds horribly bitcrunched LOL. Very unfortunate.
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    the weirdest thing i had happen (quite a few versions back) was it rendered two voices in one track-- not in engine but the finished file it rendered. i had changed the vocals from like.. natalie to solaria, and suddenly half way through the render it gave me it switch to natalie again. so weird @pico
    when i stopped making vocaloid covers my main channel's thing and stopped so i could also not face the pressure of people expecting covers, i have since just made covers and left them unposted on my pc. and that was the thing i wanted to get to- still make stuff when i feel like it but no pressure to share them. but also now i cant even figure out how many covers i have produced in the last 2~ years and what may be posted or finished lol. maybe some day ill make a massive archive of every single one, maybe just for my own organizational sake
    man synth v has been taking longer to open than before... idk if its just me or if the programs just getting slower as it updates
    Cluemily
    Cluemily
    This was part of the new update! it was mentioned in the update notes, and there's a feature within to save files as compatible with previous versions.
    Given the design alterations in AI Retakes feature, project files saved using version 1.10.0b1 and subsequent versions will not be compatible with prior versions of Synthesizer V Studio (1.9.0 and earlier). For user convenience, an option has been introduced in the “File” menu, allowing projects to be saved in a format compatible with Synthesizer V Studio 1.9.0.
    PearlStarLight5
    PearlStarLight5
    I am so uninterested in updating that I'm just sticking with 1.9 until I buy another voice, which I don't see myself doing anytime soon as I'm content with the lineup I have and I literally have 4 mains at this point
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    @Cluemily ah i mustve missed that when i looked through... good to see there is a way to save it for the older version still. in general though seems good that utaformatix also seems to reset it in some form, though im curious if itll continue to do that.
    was tuning and you know its p nice you can switch versions of voices. was thinking about how Yuma has improved and just put version 104 next to 100 and man. so wild. heres an example from new -> old: yuma_104v100

    these both have the same settings! they have power and solid almost all the way up! along w some breathiness, tensions, gender, and tone shift (all the way up).

    its not even that 100 sounds bad. but i felt back then that Yuma's vocal modes just werent that obvious, and now his voice is SO much more solid. you can still make 104 sound like 100, but instead its kinda just his natural voice? and his vocal modes are just more prominent
    aughhh i am struggling with this cover mix. i definitely finally found a vocsynth screamo effect that sounds pretty good buuut i keep tweaking it over and over bc it just doesnt sound exactly right. but i also dont think i can improve this all too much bc its... well, its a vocsynth
    mobius017
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    i have some specific settings I have been using too tho you are free to do something else. I have been trying to get the higher pitched type of screamo, this is what i do @mobius017

    For the singer settings:
    LOUDNESS 5
    TENSION .5
    BREATH .7
    GEN 1
    TONE SHIT 40
    key shift is optional for what you want

    For RV Growl & vocascreamer settings:

    I usually use FL hardcore with the first preset but it doesnt really matter, just whatever you like.
    mobius017
    mobius017
    Thank you so much!
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