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  • Does anyone know a better way to lay down flats in Clip Studio? I have been using the wand+fill bucket method, but if you are using Brushes that are not any variation of the G-Pen, it ends up missing some spots.
    Also, is there any way to color backgrounds without it affecting the upper layers when using the Realistic Watercolor tools?
    I hope we get news about Eleanor SynthV2 soon.
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    That Titanic clip:clara_ani_lili:
    @Krin I think the lack of expressiveness depends on tuning, which seems to matter a lot to more relaxed vocals. A lot of Luka songs I have listened to made her sound very dull because of the tuning, whereas in other songs she did not sound dull.
    I still would love more pitches though. More pitches the merrier:miku_ani_lili:
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    @Stardust true!! maybe it's her straightforward (or too accurate?) pronunciation that i meant. but i do really like the sound of her in mid + high range with the current pitch. hopefully she gets a lower pitch too because that's my problem area with her :,,)
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    @Krin Now that you mention it, that may be the reason why. Hopefully the new recordings will be a bit more expressive, if that's the correct word, without losing her relaxed tone.
    She sounds lovely in that range. I haven't used her much, as I only have her SynthV2 Lite version, but I can see her having problems in lower pitches due to her voice being somewhat high.
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    The possible Gynoid announcement is getting me excited. Will it be CEVIO related? Vocaloid related? SynthV related? Whatever it is I can't wait:hime_smile_lili:
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    msmsmsm
    msmsmsm
    I hope it's something to do with Flower's CeVIO VB, but any news will be good! :')
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    mahalisyarifuddin
    mahalisyarifuddin
    Apparently it has something to do with Project Sekai.
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    Stardust
    Stardust
    I was expecting only cryptonloids to be in Project Sekai. So this is very surprising, but in a good way:lapis_ani_lili:
    Is anyone familiar with a good guide to making Japanese Vocaloids sing in English?
    mobius017
    mobius017
    You're probably going to find phoneme replacement--replacing phonemes in one language with their closest equivalents from another language--to be really useful to you. Like uncreepy mentioned, a chart of available phonemes is going to really help. This chart is from the Vocaloid Wiki and is meant to be used to convert English to Japanese, but you could always use it in reverse. Like uncreepy mentioned, the results won't necessarily be perfect, but based on personal experience with other languages, it's possible to get pretty good results--how good the results are may vary depending on the particular voicebanks involved, how close the phonemes are, and maybe what you can do to overcome any differences by manipulating the Vocaloid parameters (GEN, OPE, etc.).
    morrysillusion
    morrysillusion
    sadly dont know any specific guide, as uncreepy said i think its a lot of practice and just feeling it out to get the right sounds. i will list some things to keep in mind/stuff i do though:
    - its a tedious process to change *every* single phoneme and as a base, i tend to use a ENG -> JPN phoneme converter plug in while in V4. i use one by SalatarisSpace as the other one i have puts way too many voiceless consonants and it was annoying. im not sure if the plug in i use is available but id be ok sending it if you need it! i edit it heavily from what it does because it doesnt do everything, but it sets something to work off of and again, i dont have to do everyone by hand completely lol.
    - experiment with vowels and combine them to find better sounds like [a M] or {a e] etc. theres a lot to put together, some are weird but some are handy
    - its best not to throw all your consonants and vowels into one note like engloids, like this [s t o p], i tend to break it up so the consonants will be properly voiced, like [s M_0] [t o] [p M_0] - making the first and last notes short. keep in mind how many consonants should be voiced as well...sometimes too many makes it sounds like a mess. say the words and thing about what you hear best.
    - on not using too many consonants- the sound [M] is a very good closing off sound that is good for e's or end sounds like "ow" or "oh", if looking for a 'closing sound' like that, i recommend using a vowel over the consonant as end consonants without a vowel (ex [w] and not [w M]) are barely voiced or not voice at all (which goes to the above on why i make short consonant notes like [s M_0]
    - experiment with parameters! VEL and OPE, but mostly OPE, have been very great in helping me find slightly better pronunciations of the consonants and vowels.
    - the issue with [4] (japanese r)... theres a lot of ways you can use it, i sometimes use it as an english r or l and it just depends. i suggest messing with OPE when using it to see what other sounds you can get from it.
    - think in the way japanese is structured in CV. you here a lotta "to" "po" "su" etc and thats why its best to not settle with [s t o p] or [ p\ M d] or whatever. english is made that way, so the base conversions youll see from plugins and such wont work well. think like CV and break up the words accordingly.

    this is all based off of using pretty much purely V Flower, so some of my tips may not be super helpful, youll have to hear out the vocaloids you use and get to know where their flaws are.
    Stardust
    Stardust
    Thank you all for the advice :clara_rylitah: I'll keep these in mind. And thank you for the guide Mobius017. I didn't know the wiki had such a useful resource.
    Can you use Miku V3 Vivid and Miku V3 Light without owning Miku V3? I am interested in the extra banks, but I already own Miku V4X.
    I had a very strange dream today when I had to take a nap.
    I had a dream that someone on Vocaverse was really upset that users were posting Kaito songs and calling it "spam", even though it was on topic and in the correct subforum. There was a back and forth and it ended with them just being upset that people liked Kaito when they believed he was a "terrible low quality vocal". The strangest part was, that it felt very real.
    I have no idea why I had such a strange dream considering how peaceful Vocaverse is. I think maybe stress from RL things are getting to me, or TheStarPlace's status post about people's unrelenting hatred of Kaito somehow surfaced in my dreams.

    But, back to reality, I hope to finish tuning a cover today. It'll be from start to finish, and I'm quite excited for it.:clara_rylitah:
    Today is Rana's birthday!:rana_lili:
    I still need to listen to her more. She is one of the few vocaloids I am having trouble liking. If anyone has song recommendations, I would appreciate that.
    I updated the VST resource today. I wasn't able to do much since I'm tired, but hopefully the new additions can help. I hope to finish it relatively soon.
    I'm thinking of perhaps making a list of VSTs to help others find instruments they need for remixing or music creation. I only own 2, however I know a large amount of VSTs from browsing Big Fish Audio, and other sites. Also, the list would only contain paid VSTs since I don't know many free ones. Any thoughts on this?
    Also, I wrote this in a rush, so it's not as grammatically correct as I had hoped.
    Stardust
    Stardust
    I'll make sure to work on it then. It might take a while to post, as I've never posted a resource before.
    Stigbn
    Stigbn
    You can find many Youtube-videos about free good Vst's but I think it's a great idea to have a list here.

    I have mostly paid vst's, and those that come with Studio One Pro, but I would recommend these free ones at the moment:

    synth:
    Surge - very good synth with many, many useful presets
    Tal Elec7ro-II - good synth
    Spitfire Labs: Many very good sample-based instruments can be downloaded for free on their website, often with an ambient sound to them.
    Ample guitar lite, fine for some acoustic guitarsounds
    free Kontakt player (there's a bunch of free libraries you can use in the free version)
    Steven Slate drums 5 - free version with 1 drumset (but I would rather recommend the Toontrack EZ drummer line, but that's a paid vst)

    Free effects:
    Tokyo Dawn Labs Kotelnikov (compressor)
    Tokyo Dawn Labs Nova (dynamic eq)
    Valhallah Supermassive (delay/chorus type)
    Stardust
    Stardust
    @Stigbn Thank you! I'll add them to the list now.
    Apologies for the inactivity. I've been very busy, as well as tired. I hope to respond to any DMs either by tonight or tomorrow. Tomorrow is the most likely date due to a storm going over my area around nighttime.
    Also, out of curiosity, what benefits does using Vocaloid 5 as a VST bring? I've tried using it before as a VST, but it was slow.
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    Hey, don't worry about it! Things around here are very "Go-at-your-own-pace". Please take care of yourself, friend! :akasakiminato_lili:
    Stigbn
    Stigbn
    If you only make covers then using it as a VST doesn't bring that many benefits I guess.
    But if you compose your songs then you can go back and forth and edit the tune AND the accompaintment (the instruments) at the same time.
    Stardust
    Stardust
    @peaches2217 Thank you:kokone_lili:

    @Stigbn Ooh, now that sounds interesting:nemu_smile_lili:It would help with timing it with the instrumental as well. Looks like I'll have to use it more as a VST soon.
    Does anyone know if Crypton ships internationally, or do you need to use a forwarding service? I'd like to get Kaito and Meiko V1 at some point but they aren't available for download, only physical.
    Stardust
    Stardust
    Thank goodness. Does this also apply to the Vocaloid Store? I noticed the Japanese one has different vocals available compared to the English one.
    That's annoying. I had hoped Stardust would be the only one I would struggle to purchase from Taobao:ring_ani_lili: I hope so too, I don't know why he wasn't on there in the first place. I have a theory that they have a "exclusivity deal", for lack of better words, for Muxin right now, and I'm hoping the deal will be up after a month or two of his release, which is approaching soon, so let's keep hoping.:mirai_ani_lili:
    WyndReed
    WyndReed
    Since you can use paypal on the japanese vocaloid store I’d assume that you could purchase directly from there. I haven’t tried this myself so I don’t know for sure.
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    Also, a heads-up: SuperBuy won’t purchase download-only vocals for you, like any of Quadimension’s SVS vocals. I use Taobao Focus instead! Make sure you put your email in the comments, so they can pass the info along to Quadimension.
    How do you load a voicebank into UTAU? it recognized I had Momo and her banks, but not for Teto's. Momo is also not producing any sound when she sings. edit: It's because they are VCV, I'm still new to UTAU so I didn't know there was a difference. I don't know how to do the right input though.
    edit: It's also not allowing me to input any Japanese. It keeps switching back to English.
    Edit: Now it's allowing Hiragana, but keeps switching back to it when I try to input Katakana or Alphanumeric. And now it's not allowing me to use Hiragana at all? This is all so confusing. edit: The last one was my fault. I set the input method to Kana instead of Romaji, which was giving it issues. Also I can't believe I thought Alphanumeric was an actual form of Japanese. My knowledge of the language is not good.
    edit: Also, does Utau allow for phoneme editing?
    Stardust
    Stardust
    @patuk I would appreciate that a lot. As you can see, I have many questions since this is all so confusing for me.
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    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    Ah, I overlooked like all but one of the questions you asked me earlier. I’m sorry!!

    Will this work with voicebanks like Momo's where it only has VCV?
    In theory, yes, but I like to make sure I have the notes laid out and the lyrics input correctly and such before rendering it as VCV. Attempting to play CV with a VCV bank will result in a whole lot of nothing but silence. So I use either Tei or Teto’s VCVs (depending on which one is more similar to the VB I’m planning to work with), make sure the UST is correct, render it to VCV, then switch to my VB of choosing to begin the fine editing and tuning.

    As for the plugin, I forget the exact name... there’s a few. I’m at work on my phone, so I’ll need to look it up 😅
    Stardust
    Stardust
    Thanks. That's a good method. It might also help to save before rendering it, so you can go back and fix anything if you noticed something wrong after the rendering process.
    Don't worry, I found it. It's Lyric Diphonizer.
    I wonder, will UTAU start working again if I switch my system locale back to Japanese?
    peaches2217
    peaches2217
    I'd say so! I don't think it can work without having your locale set to Japanese, can it? Of course, that doesn't change your computer's interface at all. Sometimes my login screen will be in Japanese upon restarting my computer, but other than that, it's perfectly fine.
    Stardust
    Stardust
    :teto_lili:It did! I thought I would have to reinstall it. Now, to see if I can get the voicebanks to load.
    @peaches2217 I had originally switched it back to english due to an unfortunate incident I had once where Studio One updated in Japanese. I guess if that happens again I'll put up with it if it means I get to use UTAU.
    Teto was a prank designed to trick people into thinking she was CV04, or more technically, CV0401(The date of April Fools). I wonder if Crypton will end up playing on that and announce an NT voicebank for her on the 1st of April and say she's CV04.
    Exemplar
    Exemplar
    I'd put my odds on an entirely new character instead. I think CFM knows better than to release another female head voice to compete with Miku & Rin.
    Blue Of Mind
    Blue Of Mind
    I'm pretty sure I suggested before on another thread that Teto could be a prepackaged/"free" VB for Piapro NT, like Defoko for UTAU.

    At this point, I'd be happy for a new Cryptonloid regardless of gender. It's been so long since they dropped Luka (their last new VB), and I miss the hype surrounding new Crypton vocal synths.
    Stardust
    Stardust
    @Exemplar True, but knowing how vocal synth companies are, I could see them releasing another anyways just because female synths sell better.
    Though I would love a new character and voice, it would be wonderful to have a new addition to Crypton's lineup:kanon_lili:
    @Blue Of Mind That's a good idea:nemu_smile_lili: Having a way to test Piapro NT in any way would be great to me.
    I feel the same way. I got into vocaloid long after Luka's release, and I remember being excited thinking CV04 would release any day now. It's starting to feel like the Half-Life 3 of vocal synths at this rate.:kaito_lili:
    The birthday songs are coming in :miku_ani_lili:
    I already made a post about Starry Song, but I also wanted to share this one by OwataP. I wish I knew the English name so I could make a topic like I did with Starry Song, but I don't know Japanese, and I'm not sure Google will translate it correctly.
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    TheStarPalace
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    The title is Kami-sama Na No Na! Always glad to see more owata-P
    Stardust
    Stardust
    Thank you:genbu_smile_lili: I'll post it then. I'm glad too. He hasn't posted any new songs in a while, so I'm glad to see him make a comeback.
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