It sounds so much clearer, less noisy and more like Miku! I really like it actually.
VOCALOID Crypton new Miku NT ver.2, Miku V6 and Piapro Characters Super Pack
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It is too preliminary for us to criticize or to compliment the voicebank. We should listen to real-life tuning from vocaloid producers first.
However based on the demos, I can definitely say that the sounds from the voicebank has improved in terms of the "crispness" (especially Demo Phrase F and Demo Phrase R), but somehow it still sounds a little more "synthetic" or "unhealthy" (sounds like having a running nose or cold) compared to her vocaloid's versions (especially the growl usage of Demo Phrase M sounds not so pleasant to my ears).
Anyway, I am waiting for more (real-life) demos before making final conclusion on whether the voicebank is good or not so good.
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miku nt has always sounded "stuffy", i think miku nt2 is an overall improvement
I really like what I’ve heard of NT2 usage so far too. Miku sounds clearer and more lively compared to NT1. I like her tone a loooot more. The engine noise isn’t nearly as grating to me as it was before as well. It does sound like it’s the improvement that she needed. Excited to see how they’ll update her beyond Early Access
just as a FYI. there's no automatic updater so you have to pay attention to the mailing list and update to latest version for up to date bug testing.
that said, how to properly file bug reports with the jp devs? I don't really want to waste their time with poor or outdated reports and poor language skills that makes it harder to reproduce a issue.
that said, how to properly file bug reports with the jp devs? I don't really want to waste their time with poor or outdated reports and poor language skills that makes it harder to reproduce a issue.
Currently, there are a few real-life usages of Hatsune Miku NT 2.0
www.bilibili.com
The following are the comparison demo between NT 1.0 and NT 2.0
www.bilibili.com
www.bilibili.com
【初音ミクNT2】阳炎眩乱/カゲロウデイズ_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
NT2=屎，C社吹上天的AI仅限于自动控制颤音、辅音长短和音高曲线(可操作的选项基本等于没有，只是个开关)好像音高自动有个阈值音符超过4拍就会自动套用一个曲线(算法很抽象只有一种曲线)自动颤音的长度也是音符固定最后两拍开始，好像和颤音曲线共用一套算法，唯一可以调节的就是颤音幅度(频率不行)C社你迭代到0.9.1.0就挤出这么一点东西我也是服了，前排出售二手NT附赠NT2测试资格（bushi）——本, 视频播放量 65、弹幕量 0、点赞数 8、投硬币枚数 4、收藏人数 3、转发人数 3, 视频作者 没有鹅妈妈的四月, 作者简介...
The following are the comparison demo between NT 1.0 and NT 2.0
初音ミクNT2代与1代声音对比（干声）_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
自调了一段对比还是有进步的（？, 视频播放量 1004、弹幕量 0、点赞数 45、投硬币枚数 0、收藏人数 22、转发人数 12, 视频作者 函数P, 作者简介 Hi～这里是函数，合作请私信～，相关视频：初音疑似恢复了力气和手段唱中文！《真的》【Cover张韶涵】，「初音未来NT (Ver.2)」Early Access - 歌曲演示试听，第一首使用Miku音源的歌曲 - 01_ballade (2007)，【中日字幕/新曲完整版】Ado×初音ミク「桜日和とタイムマシン」，【初音未来】“你用我的后悔当作《复活节》” 【VOCALOID COVER】，DECO*27 - ネバーランド...
初音未来 NT ver.1与NT ver.2 （测试版）有无auto的对比（千本樱无参）_哔哩哔哩_bilibili
原曲——千本樱为了测试高音，副歌部分升了一个八度，测评不完善NT ver.2听起来好像有点不大清晰且分贝较大，我也不知道为什么，工程也是这样的声音, 视频播放量 137、弹幕量 0、点赞数 2、投硬币枚数 1、收藏人数 1、转发人数 2, 视频作者 红月忆故人, 作者简介 一个有趣账号的不有趣的大号，相关视频：我趣，兔子洞！，「初音未来NT (Ver.2)」Early Access - 歌曲演示试听，【4K60帧 中日字幕】初音未来「魔法未来2024 / MAGICAL MIRAI 2024 /...
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I recommend to first check this support page (available both in japanese and english), since it is updated whenever an issue is discovered:
for example, these are new specifications and issues listed on the page:
Sonicwire support page (select "Technical Support", login with your account and write the message to the developers):
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NT2 is such a mystery to me.
i'll cave and say, i understand why people are saying the engine noise has gotten stronger in points - and given they had to rebuild from the ground up, it feels very likely we have confirmation now that crypton... def struggles with some of the engine-making aspects!
funnily enough though, after listening to a number of tests with and without a mix, i still believe this update has more pros than cons personally (it's just that the cons are... kinda completely different cons from NT1?)
it's all really hard to explain, but from hearing her IN the mix with instrumental and fx etc, i feel as if a lot of the blemishes/engine quirks can be hid a lot easier, and what you're left with is something that sounds adjacent to miku V2 but with a bunch of new options and (subjectively) easier to use.
i think the fact that this update introduces new issues at all might be reason to turn people away ("they've had so much time to get, like, most of this sounding/working better"), but i still truly feel that NT2 is a better product - if THIS was what we got instead of the very first NT beta, i think people would've warmed to it much better, but sadly that's not the case OTL.
NT seems like it's going to be a very long term project, though, if they're going the way of making iterations like this but releasing them for free. i feel as if there's something different about the way they're handling it, over say how most other synth releases/updates are.
maybe not for everyone, but i'd say i have more hope in the future of CV.
i'll cave and say, i understand why people are saying the engine noise has gotten stronger in points - and given they had to rebuild from the ground up, it feels very likely we have confirmation now that crypton... def struggles with some of the engine-making aspects!
funnily enough though, after listening to a number of tests with and without a mix, i still believe this update has more pros than cons personally (it's just that the cons are... kinda completely different cons from NT1?)
it's all really hard to explain, but from hearing her IN the mix with instrumental and fx etc, i feel as if a lot of the blemishes/engine quirks can be hid a lot easier, and what you're left with is something that sounds adjacent to miku V2 but with a bunch of new options and (subjectively) easier to use.
i think the fact that this update introduces new issues at all might be reason to turn people away ("they've had so much time to get, like, most of this sounding/working better"), but i still truly feel that NT2 is a better product - if THIS was what we got instead of the very first NT beta, i think people would've warmed to it much better, but sadly that's not the case OTL.
NT seems like it's going to be a very long term project, though, if they're going the way of making iterations like this but releasing them for free. i feel as if there's something different about the way they're handling it, over say how most other synth releases/updates are.
maybe not for everyone, but i'd say i have more hope in the future of CV.
i feel like miku nt2 is exactly what crypton wanted to accomplish with the voicebank in the first place
Btw, I just found out so I'm sharing, it seems like crypton silently added back the Miku V3 bundle to sonicwire !
初音ミク V3 (incl. English)
For a long time only light and vivid were available on sonicwire but we can finally buy the full v3 bundle digitally ! I've waited for it since 2021
初音ミク V3 (incl. English)
For a long time only light and vivid were available on sonicwire but we can finally buy the full v3 bundle digitally ! I've waited for it since 2021
I think they added it back along with the rest of the packaging changes from a while back
some updated information about Specifications and Known Issues on the Support page of Miku NT ver.2 Early Access:
Specifications:
also, on December 15th there will be Open Campus of japanese iUniversity in Sumida-ku, Tokyo [Special program just before winter break!] Learn from "Hatsune Miku NT"!
[Special Program] Learn from "Hatsune Miku NT"! The shortest route to success in the music industry: 10:50-11:50
Special lecturer
Mr. Kiyodo Koizumi
Specifications:
- The "Attack Speed" parameter is not available.
- Voice Color: Only supports "Accent."
- Vibrato: The "Vibrato" tab under "Note Settings..." is disabled. Manual input via the automation area shown when clicking the "Vibrato" button in the sidebar is also disabled.
- The "Portamento" option under "Note Settings..." is disabled when Automatic Control is turned on.
- An Automatic Update feature is disabled. Update information will be published on the SONICWIRE website and announced on the SONICWIRE blog. Additionally, users who have already installed the Early Access version and subscribed to the newsletter will be notified via email.
- [Added on Oct. 24] Since the parameter responsiveness in "Piapro Studio NT2" is adjusted for better vocal expression, you may not achieve the same results when loading project files from "Piapro Studio NT".
- Manual vibrato cannot be applied from the waveform display section. Workaround: You can manually apply vibrato to any notes by selecting both "vibrato-applied notes" and "non-applied notes" simultaneously, then adjusting the vibrato length from the waveform display section.
- The application crashes when switching a track layer on a full-size piano roll display and then immediately exiting full-size mode after switching layers.
- The application crashes when pitch notes are muted, split, and then unmuted in order.
- The application crashes when unpronounceable elements, such as consonants or typos, are included at the end of a phonetic string.
- VoiceDrive turns off on the duplicated track when duplicating a track.
- The application freezes when pitch notes are moved to a fast-tempo range, and undo or moving them back to a slow range is performed.
- (Under investigation) Rendering waveform abnormalities may occur due to consecutive operations. Workaround: Changing and then restoring the note's pitch to trigger re-rendering improves the issue.
- The plugin may fail to launch in Digital Performer.
- [Added on Oct. 25] When both the previous "Piapro Studio NT" and the Early Access version "Piapro Studio NT2" are open simultaneously in a DAW project, saving the DAW project may result in "Piapro Studio NT2" not launching the next time the project is opened.
- [Added on Oct. 30] When "Apply to Consonant Length" in the Automatic Control settings is enabled, entering "sil," "asp," or "br" between closely positioned notes to break automatic connections may cause the application to crash.
- [Added on Nov. 5] In certain arrangements, editing or reloading after saving may cause issues with the consonant length of the note following an "ん (n)" note.
- [Added on Nov. 5] After loading MIDI with tempo information, the tempo becomes unselectable for range selection or deletion with the eraser tool.
also, on December 15th there will be Open Campus of japanese iUniversity in Sumida-ku, Tokyo [Special program just before winter break!] Learn from "Hatsune Miku NT"!
[Special Program] Learn from "Hatsune Miku NT"! The shortest route to success in the music industry: 10:50-11:50
Special lecturer
Mr. Kiyodo Koizumi