Do you know of any noise removal plugins that are cheaper or free? I'd never thought of using a plugin!
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I could've sworn that you once stated that you use FL Studio. If so, Edison can do noise removal, which is included in all bundles except the cheapest. If you have the cheapest FL Studio bundle, then Audacity can also do noise removal.
For what it's worth, in my current project I'm removing the high frequency nastiness from SynthV's 闇音レンリ with the help of TDR Nova, a free dynamic EQ plugin. I prefer its results versus noise removal techniques.
Makes sense, I don't own any vocaloid that's particularly quiet/soft but in UTAU I noticed that soft voicebanks especially have issues with strong engine noise...probably because they're more breathy.
I'm guessing it's because the editor tries to find the pitch in the recording and since breath is white noise and it can't really find a pitch there so it turns it into this buzzy noise causing the VB to have strong engine noise. That's what I'm guessing after rading up this old post about breaths in UTAU
I made a comparison
original then filter
Z noise finds the noise in the audio without a sample if you want I can make a sample of his noise profile to use with other software
original then filter
Z noise finds the noise in the audio without a sample if you want I can make a sample of his noise profile to use with other software
This is very useful information! I'll have to try it on some banks that have noticeable engine noise!
Also, thank you @patuk for sharing that information about UTAU's breaths! I always wondered why Teto's breaths were so metallic, and now I understand why.
Also, thank you @patuk for sharing that information about UTAU's breaths! I always wondered why Teto's breaths were so metallic, and now I understand why.
Cool. I had no idea there was an affordable noise reducer that didn't need a noise profile. Thanks for the heads up. Z-Noise certainly did an excellent job of kicking 闇音レンリ's high frequency nastiness out into the cold city streets where it belongs.
(Although there still remains one resonant band that needs a manual tweak. Oh well. Can't win them all.)
The problematic resonance has nothing to do with noise, and therefore Z-noise won't remove/reduce it, regardless of settings. It's just a nasty quirk in the upper notes of 闇音レンリ's voice database.
I added some more information on Gumi, mainly in regards to her native and power vbs.
Maybe we should add info about the difficulty of voicebanks to let people know what they're potentially getting themselves into. What do you think?
That's actually a good idea! It would at least make a good reference.
Well, each vocaloid can be difficult to use for various reasons as you said, their difficulty level should probably depend on how severe their problems are and whether it's easy to work around the problem or not.
And I should mention. There of course are obvious beginner friendly vocaloids and obvious difficult vocaloids but some kind of fall in the middle, like most AHS vocaloids I'd say.
And I should mention. There of course are obvious beginner friendly vocaloids and obvious difficult vocaloids but some kind of fall in the middle, like most AHS vocaloids I'd say.
Yes! That would help a lot of people, I'm sure!
I agree with this. Maybe we could list a few areas that voicebanks have issues with. Like, one voicebank might be easy to tune, but difficult to mix.
I agree. Like, a good example of a Voicebanks that would be more difficult than others and require more work would be Rin/Len ACT1 since they're apparently choppy and Rin has issues pronouncing her consonants. So... I think areas of difficulty should be noted for sure.
Hm, maybe we should start with the obvious ones like Sonika? I know there is archived thread from VO talking about fixing Sonika so maybe it would be a good idea to put some of their advices here to make the information more accessible.
Also @Prism I believe you own Sonika right? Maybe you have some advices
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Also @Prism I believe you own Sonika right? Maybe you have some advices
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That's an excellent idea! Especially since the archived VO posts won't show up in search results, but stuff on VVN will. Speaking of VO, if I have some time, I may take a look through the archives and see if there's any information that can be put here. ^^
Here are the threads. I'll mention that it's probably worth looking into the comments too.
Also how will we put this info into the main post? Will we put like simplified version of what they've written and link to the archived thread for further detail?
Speaking of engloids I remembered that @Vegetaljuce made a guide for Gumi english. Maybe we should link to it too.
Also how will we put this info into the main post? Will we put like simplified version of what they've written and link to the archived thread for further detail?
Speaking of engloids I remembered that @Vegetaljuce made a guide for Gumi english. Maybe we should link to it too.
Ah, yes, thanks for mentioning it! Although, as an fyi to anyone interested, it's still a work in progress.
If anyone just wants a summary of Gumi English's strengths and weaknesses, here's what I'd say:
- She is easy to mix
- She has a slight accent, but with tweaks is capable of sounding very close to a native English speaker.
- She has many broken/ wonky transitions. For this reason, I would not recommend her to anyone who isn't interested in putting a decent amount of time into editing phonetics, because without this she tends to sound very clunky.
- Not a good beginner English bank, because she requires extensive knowledge of Vocaloid's English phoneme list in order to perform the needed workarounds.
- I'd give her an overall difficulty rating of 8/10 (10 being the hardest), due to her transition issues.