Her voice sounds nice! It's a shame her voice provider is the only skilled artist attached to the project - or at least the only one who seems to value her craft. 
wow. she surely is... underwhelming.
you might as well just buy any other dt letter person (or not, mai comes w the editor and she could replace topaz pretty easily)
i don't usually roast perfectly good voicebanks just for being generic bc i don't wanna be overly negative, but,,, they were really asking for it with their 'for professionals' talk. did they do any market research at all?
also her official art with the weird perspective is also her image in the editor, it's so goofy lmao
you might as well just buy any other dt letter person (or not, mai comes w the editor and she could replace topaz pretty easily)
i don't usually roast perfectly good voicebanks just for being generic bc i don't wanna be overly negative, but,,, they were really asking for it with their 'for professionals' talk. did they do any market research at all?
also her official art with the weird perspective is also her image in the editor, it's so goofy lmao
she sounds nice but nothin special
her editor art seems rushed, looking at the sketchlines
oh and gemvox kinda sucks, yknow nfts and the whole "we wanna market to professionals ackshually!!" thing is kinda annoying
her editor art seems rushed, looking at the sketchlines
oh and gemvox kinda sucks, yknow nfts and the whole "we wanna market to professionals ackshually!!" thing is kinda annoying
Given that her company has made no efforts to reach out or accommodate to Korean fans (there's not even translations on their webpages...), I don't see the reception becoming positive. At the moment, there has been discussion about her in Korean spaces and among Korean fans / speakers, but nobody really interested in her directly - only Korean XLS. In fact, I could see her reputation becoming worse in Korea when she's able to utilize Korean due to complex Geo-political social issues...
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Usually I would have jumped on the occasion as I did back in the past with Fuiro (or Aoki Lapis back in the time on NND) but seeing these things kinda left a bitter taste in my mouth.... (Also why do I feel like they'll discard my fave gem amethyst ? lol)
Usually I would have jumped on the occasion as I did back in the past with Fuiro (or Aoki Lapis back in the time on NND) but seeing these things kinda left a bitter taste in my mouth.... (Also why do I feel like they'll discard my fave gem amethyst ? lol)
so quick after their first voice release we're seeing this too...? yeah, not a fan of how gemvox has been developing. there may not be anything illegal going on here but, its overall business practices and other things that just feel off to me at this point
It's because they're venture capital - which consists of bloating a start-up with as much money as possible so that they can "exit." Studio ENTRE's entire existence is funding new startups, with a special focus on Web3, NFT, and block-chain technology startups. (Which, is important to note as I've seen many individuals say "well Yamaha released NFTs for Zola" which while most certainly deserves to be criticized, is not the inherent goal or industry that Yamaha and SoundUD work in. Meanwhile, Studio ENTRE's mission statement and areas of expertise are directly within funding and creating new Web3/NFT/block-chain applications and subsidiaries).
It's very common with VC-backed startups that the project is pumped with money fast to try and expand - sometimes as much as a million dollars or more. The ultimate goal is to either go public or sell the business to return equity to the venture capitalists who invested. However, general statistics show a 75-80% failure rate of VC-backed startups. While the first-year failure rate is low, most VC-backed companies do not last longer than 5 years and it's a miracle to make it to a decade (as can be seen by programs such as MUTA, Vocalina, Sharpkey, among some others). While it is public record, in an attempt to avoid naming names, one of the companies I just listed actually received an investment of 3 million dollars yet became defunct by their 3rd year, and closed their service after 6.
I wouldn't be surprsied if this is the same philosophy that GEMVOX is operating under, especially since the licenses for these products are not cheap. Pump the business/project with as much money as possible, try to make as much content as possible, and aim to return the capital that was invested in your business in a non-crisis way. Given the track record we can observe so far, and the fact they're hoping to make the "GEMVOX UNIVERSE" platform...I personally don't see them lasting long.
note to self: never go to venture capitalists for funding
Ugh.
Special thanks to Animechain.ai for misspelling Vocaloid.
Also, this frame from the video just says it all.
Special thanks to Animechain.ai for misspelling Vocaloid.
Also, this frame from the video just says it all.
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According to the article they have plans for banks on Voisona and Vocaloid too. Ugh.
I wish Studio ENTRE a very stay the hell away fron us.
I wish Studio ENTRE a very stay the hell away fron us.
Almost want to watch it out of morbid curiosity but I feel like I'll be getting a phone call from Sadako if I do
Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed in Dreamtonics for letting this bank happen. (I mean, it had to be approved by them, right?) Maybe I'm being unfair, but I can't help but feel like it shakes my trust in their dedication to ethical AI a bit (or at the very least I feel like it gives skeptics more room to doubt it). It irks me that they make you cough up sensitive info to buy Vocoflex in the name of ensuring ethical AI use, but a company releasing a Synth V voicebank to promote their gen AI swill is A-OK apparently. Really makes me feel like they only care enough to avoid getting sued themselves. Which is fair enough for a company I guess, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
BRB gonna go produce a series of gemstone-inspired UTAU characters and tell my theoretical kids they're the real Gemvox X'P
Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed in Dreamtonics for letting this bank happen. (I mean, it had to be approved by them, right?) Maybe I'm being unfair, but I can't help but feel like it shakes my trust in their dedication to ethical AI a bit (or at the very least I feel like it gives skeptics more room to doubt it). It irks me that they make you cough up sensitive info to buy Vocoflex in the name of ensuring ethical AI use, but a company releasing a Synth V voicebank to promote their gen AI swill is A-OK apparently. Really makes me feel like they only care enough to avoid getting sued themselves. Which is fair enough for a company I guess, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
BRB gonna go produce a series of gemstone-inspired UTAU characters and tell my theoretical kids they're the real Gemvox X'P
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I think it's a little unfair to single out Dreamtonics here considering both ENTRE's plans for other engines, their pre existing Vocaloid Studio Beta, as well as well as some of the third party their competition associated with. (Kamitsubaki had multiple nft projects, the company behind the Tohoku sisters dabbled in some tech bro stuff, ZOLA project nfts, list goes on really. And that's just the tech stuff)
Corporations are not our friends and it's not a bad thing to have these conversations I just wanted to add my two cents in the interest of fairness.
Corporations are not our friends and it's not a bad thing to have these conversations I just wanted to add my two cents in the interest of fairness.
I get your point and even agree to an extent (I did note my feelings might not be fair), but to my knowledge NFTs aren't inherently tied to stealing from artists the way gen AI is (according to what I've heard at least), which is why this upsets me more than NFTs.
That's fair. I mainly brought up NFT stuff cause it's tech bro adjacent and because ENTRE has them apparently.
Althought if I recall Tohoku Zunko's company did briefly dabble in AI image generator models for their characters (the tweet is gone so i can't find the source anymore so take this with some salt)
There is also Ace studio which apparently uses AI generated icons for some of their new released. I guess those would be better examples.
edit: Wait I just remembered Voicevox had that knight character, Benizakura or what's his face, his full armor standing pick is also AI generated, at least partially if I recall.
Althought if I recall Tohoku Zunko's company did briefly dabble in AI image generator models for their characters (the tweet is gone so i can't find the source anymore so take this with some salt)
There is also Ace studio which apparently uses AI generated icons for some of their new released. I guess those would be better examples.
edit: Wait I just remembered Voicevox had that knight character, Benizakura or what's his face, his full armor standing pick is also AI generated, at least partially if I recall.
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couldn't it be some artifacts from JPG compression ? as JPG is a compressed format
Also, I personally do kinda like edgy characters but i feel like there should be "more" than the edge, like her design doesn't have anything special clothes wise etc, all she has is her edgy face and pose
Giving up on the amateur market to go all in with the "true professionals" is what really tanked Vocaloid 5 lmao so it's clearly not the best idea lol.Agree. Like yeah, Eclipsed got to announce Spanish with Saros, but they also had released VBs before, Saros came with it, and they helped develop it
edit: also I don't love their attitude so far. They... are not winning themselves any favors by being kind of dismissive about amateurs. Like yes, on company sides there have been some messes in the vsynth world. I'll admit that. But I feel like trying to market to professionals and ignore amateur producers is always a disaster. The amateurs were what put Vocaloid on the scene to begin with!!
Maybe I'm being too harsh and they don't mean it that way...
Dreamtonics striked the right balance by trying to appeal to professionals without undermining the fanbase
Disgusting kill it with fire
“The charm of the new vocaloid product”
Uses ai for all of it so I’m left with the impression that this is one of the worst companies lol
Uses ai for all of it so I’m left with the impression that this is one of the worst companies lol