Unpopular Opinions

natsuki

New Fan
May 3, 2021
1
~ Reasons To Kill Me ~

i hate fukase and gumi

rin's power append v2 will always be superior

vy1v4 is the best vy to ever exist

vy2v3 is the second best vy to ever exist

galaco v2 can burn in hell(edited)

akari's voicebank can get annoying as fuck

yuzuki sounds super nasally in v3

ken is one of the best vocaloids to ever exist

miku nt can also burn in hell

seeu isn't that good

rikka standard > rikka ai

saki ai > saki standard

iroha natural falsetto is amazing

iroha soft falsetto sings in cursive so ew

i dont like hime that much but mikoto is amazing

flower isn't actually that interesting

i don't actually like mitchie m's miku tuning because it makes her sound like she's a 40 year old trying to sound cute

yukari > akari

amy = bad

chris = fukase but cheap

kaori = amy japanese but better

cocorobo was great and should've been released publicly

galaco red isn't actually that bad but blue can suck my-

cevios kinda sound nasty sometimes

except for minato and airi
 

Rylitah

kiyoteru enthusiast
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Apr 8, 2018
354
Also I've been thinking about this all day might as well share this, anyone else find Yukari super difficult to use 😭 ? I genuinely find Cul easier than her.
I actually see a lot of people say Yukari's really hard to use, but I never thought that myself. She's one of my favorites to use just because she really doesn't take much to sound nice, but I always figured I was in the minority on that OTL
 
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patuk

The typo queen
Oct 8, 2019
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I actually see a lot of people say Yukari's really hard to use, but I never thought that myself. She's one of my favorites to use just because she really doesn't take much to sound nice, but I always figured I was in the minority on that OTL
Really? My people 😭 I wasn't sure cuz she's universally really beloved and very often used. But I understand where you're coming from too! She's pretty realistic w/o much input and you could pass with leaving her raw too lol...but I guess she just isn't for me and for my tuning style cuz I just really like to go out of my way when using vbs and leaving them more-less untouched just isn't satysfying for me personally!
 

peaches2217

I write mediocre OliLen fanfiction.
Sep 11, 2019
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Arklahoma
I actually see a lot of people say Yukari's really hard to use, but I never thought that myself. She's one of my favorites to use just because she really doesn't take much to sound nice, but I always figured I was in the minority on that OTL
Really? My people 😭 I wasn't sure cuz she's universally really beloved and very often used. But I understand where you're coming from too! She's pretty realistic w/o much input and you could pass with leaving her raw too lol...but I guess she just isn't for me and for my tuning style cuz I just really like to go out of my way when using vbs and leaving them more-less untouched just isn't satysfying for me personally!
On this topic: I actually think Yukari’s capable of producing wonderful results! But she’s the type of VB, to me, that either sounds really good or really, really gross. I wouldn’t call her a bad VB (though Rei and her V4 add-ons are another story), but far too many usages of her are just bad.

Perhaps this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black, because I’ve never been able to make her sound good myself, but 😅
 

Rylitah

kiyoteru enthusiast
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Apr 8, 2018
354
This is kind of a weird opinion, but it kinda... bothers me when people put "TRIAL" in their cover titles?? There's literally no difference between the trial and full versions of the bank (when it comes to Vocaloid, anyway), so it just seems really useless to me. If they mention it's the trial version in the description or something that's fine, but putting it in the title when there's literally nothing distinguishing it from the full version other than the fact that they only temporarily have it just annoys me since it implies otherwise.

Synth V is an exception because afaik you have to specify when a Lite version is used. At least I know it's the case for Saki, Rikka, and the Kotonohas, but it's part of the terms you agree to when you go to download them that you write in whatever you publish that it's their Lite version. (And also... the lite versions actually are different from the full versions orz)
 

cafenurse

Still misses Anri Rune
Apr 8, 2018
1,628
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This is kind of a weird opinion, but it kinda... bothers me when people put "TRIAL" in their cover titles?? There's literally no difference between the trial and full versions of the bank (when it comes to Vocaloid, anyway), so it just seems really useless to me. If they mention it's the trial version in the description or something that's fine, but putting it in the title when there's literally nothing distinguishing it from the full version other than the fact that they only temporarily have it just annoys me since it implies otherwise.
I wonder if some people do it so their audience knows they don't own it and don't ask about it in the future. I remember following cover artists who would regularly get requests like "can you do this with piko!" or "can you cover *blank* with lapis" and theyd have to be like "vocaloids arent free i dont have those voicebanks", so they put trial in the title so their subscribers don't ask them to use that loid in the future. Plus, Idk if Pocaloid is as big as a controversy now since more voclaoids are unattainable these days and a lot of people have the belief that abandonware is okay to pirate, but i remember when pocaloid was like the biggest darkest no no in the community, people would be afraid of looking suspicious that they were pocaloiding. I think people might have worried that if they had like 50 different vocaloids featured on their channel and didnt have boxes or receipts to prove they owned them people would be like "pocaloid!!!111111!!!!111!!!!" So theyd put trial in the cover to clarify.
 

Rylitah

kiyoteru enthusiast
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Apr 8, 2018
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I wonder if some people do it so their audience knows they don't own it and don't ask about it in the future. I remember following cover artists who would regularly get requests like "can you do this with piko!" or "can you cover *blank* with lapis" and theyd have to be like "vocaloids arent free i dont have those voicebanks", so they put trial in the title so their subscribers don't ask them to use that loid in the future. Plus, Idk if Pocaloid is as big as a controversy now since more voclaoids are unattainable these days and a lot of people have the belief that abandonware is okay to pirate, but i remember when pocaloid was like the biggest darkest no no in the community, people would be afraid of looking suspicious that they were pocaloiding. I think people might have worried that if they had like 50 different vocaloids featured on their channel and didnt have boxes or receipts to prove they owned them people would be like "pocaloid!!!111111!!!!111!!!!" So theyd put trial in the cover to clarify.
Those reasons make sense! I still think putting "trial" in the title won't stop those kinds of people from asking about it though orz, but it makes sense if some people do it as a last ditch effort to stop those kinds of comments since... nobody ever reads descriptions, haha.
 

childrenEater

New Fan
May 10, 2021
2
I think people in this thread saying creep-ps new music is bad or boring is just annoying. not that I disagree, but it's not an unpopular opinion. sorry if I offended anyone.
 

luwo

Resident CUL Supremacist
Oct 24, 2020
59
UK
I think people in this thread saying creep-ps new music is bad or boring is just annoying. not that I disagree, but it's not an unpopular opinion. sorry if I offended anyone.
Is his new music even Vocaloid music, though? from what I've seen he's solely creating original works for himself now.
 

childrenEater

New Fan
May 10, 2021
2
also, I really like Chris. I dont mind other people saying they don't like him, but I think he sounds really interesting and unique.

Is his new music even Vocaloid music, though? from what I've seen he's solely creating original works for himself now.
new music is referring to what was new in 2018. that's when those comments were made. sorry for the confusion.

also, I'm going to regret saying this, but it's a little annoying when people say that Oliver is boring and stuff. I'm pretty sure he is meant to be in choirs, as in, singing with other vocals, so it makes sense how his voice isn't powerful or super unique and exciting. he probably wasn't even made to sing by himself or stand out. also, I don't think he is boring at all. like, his voice is easier for me to recognize than like, IA or maika. honestly, I think he is really great.

edit: my posts were merged together so sorry if its confusing
 
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luwo

Resident CUL Supremacist
Oct 24, 2020
59
UK
I think one of the reasons people don’t like him is because his voice has left him pigeonholed in so few genres, and because it’s such a niche voice-type in general that doesn’t have mass appeal. That’s not to say he’s low quality or anything - he’s just not to everyone’s taste and isn’t as versatile as other loids.

Some people tend to be hyperbolic when expressing unpopular opinions too, particularly when it comes to loids who are liked by a sizeable portion of the fandom (just look at miku).
 

Leon

AKA missy20201 (Elliot)
Apr 8, 2018
552
Oliver was definitely a choir type voice, so his lack of strong power makes sense. I do think he can be pretty clear if you phoneme tune him, and use some nice EQ on his vocals in the mix. Also though, there was a period of time when Oliver had a ton of stans and he was almost as well-loved as Len in the English-speaking fandom, so he's definitely gotten recognition! I think the lesser wave of "actually he's really meh" people may be in response to that, which is pretty normal. You got the "Miku is bad!!" people in response to Miku's popularity too, etc. It's inevitable 😂
 

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