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I had to think about why that image seemed familiar, then I realised it looks like whatever AI generator was used pinched Asterian's official art at some point and used that as a base for the new "image".
Also, I'm glad the internet seems to have collectively decided to dismiss all AI art as "slop", because it really hones in how much it all feels like shovelware in games - no care, time or attention put into anything.
The release date is currently March 21st 2025, which surprised me. Hopefully, we'll hear more about any new features and VBs very soon.
assuming 16500 yen is the final price, that translates to about $109 usd (right now). compared to sv1's current price of $89 usd, that seems like a fine price increase to me, not ridiculous for the quality we get imo. and this isnt even w the thought they could give sv1 owners a discount too which i am still hoping for just a little (but i still wouldnt hesitate to buy sv2 full price either). and i kind of assume sv1 would drop in price at some point too after this.
i hope also in the next two-ish months we will hear about more on some other new voice banks, at the very least would like to know what the sv2 version of dreamtonics voices are different for (in the videos we see "hayden 2" for example, presumably their old voices entirely updated for the new engine?). and of course, confirmation on whether or not sv1 owner's get any kind of deal on the new version or the previous voicebanks or if the updated sv2 letter voices are just given to owners of the sv1 letter voices (as in, i own hayden sv1 so i get a free update to hayden sv2. i cant imagine this not being the case as itd seem odd to not)
I also hope they have a SV1 user discount. Yamaha does it with Vocaloid, I think it'd be dumb if they DIDN'T have a user discount. Guess we'll just have to see if they do it or not.
SV2 launch video + new voices
male english, Liam:
female chinese, Mo Xu:
do we have a thread just for SV2....? should we? thought id put em here for now
male english, Liam:
female chinese, Mo Xu:
do we have a thread just for SV2....? should we? thought id put em here for now
Synthesizer V 2 AI 氷山キヨテル
「Synthesizer V 2 AI 氷山キヨテル」は、歌手「比山貴咏史」の声を元に制作したSynthesizer V 2専用歌声データベースです。
Synthesizer V 2 AI miki
「Synthesizer V 2 AI miki」は、歌手「フルカワミキ」の声を元に制作したSynthesizer V 2専用歌声データベースです。
Demos for Kiyoteru and Miki are out! It would be cool if MikitoP came back to her.
also this was already on the site but worth summarizing for people here:
It is available for pre-order already. It will come at the price of $99, with 3 free voicebanks - Liam, Mo Xu, amd Mai 2- to choose from. There will also be a discount on all SV2 voicebanks on the site as well (check the link for the detail and window of time).
Most importantly, for those of us who have SV1...
"Existing users of Synthesizer V Studio Pro version 1 will be able to upgrade to the version 2 editor for $49, with a discounted price of $39 until April 20th, 2025" additionally, you get to pick one of those three voicebanks for free when you upgrade.
I am a little unsure about how that adds up, honestly... am I missing something? wouldnt it be cheaper to get the $99 full price with Mai 2, Liam, and Mo Xu...? Instead of the $39 upgrade with one free voice? Because if I were to go off and buy two of those other three, I would have to be paying for two seperate banks at the price of $69 each assuming I get it during discount period. Then that would be like $177 by the end.
Though theres then the problem of upgrading our existing voices to the "SV2 version", like Hayden SV1 to Hayden SV2. They show a large chart of the prices, which will change depending on the amount of voice yuou upgrade but the starting price is $19 each. But for 5+ voice it is a total of $79 on discount and $89/$99 after, which is actually a great deal and seems fair to me. I was a little unsure about this process of upgrading old banks to new versions, as I dont really know all it offers in terms of better quality and use of the voices. They do note some voices have new/additional vocal modes in their new versions though. Of course, other companies will make their own prices, so we will have to wait and see...
Also, SV2 is cross compatible! That is, as long as those voices get proper updates to be used in SV2.
interesting note from Dreamtonics on their Standard voicebank: "The Standard (non-AI) version of Saki voice from version 1 will receive an update with re-trained models, effectively converting it into AI-based voices. The updated voice will have the same specifications as the compatibility updates for other version 1 voices".
There is also some new app/hub thing you will get to use that allows you to better track your licenses, buy voices, download stuff etc so, thats nice too i guess.
Overall? I am pretty okay with the pricing and offers. Nice to have the discounts for a certain period and the upgrade price for SV2 from SV1 users seems fair, except for my current confusion about offering one free voice but not the other three. if i am correct on my math here, i would probably just spend the full price in the end...
It is available for pre-order already. It will come at the price of $99, with 3 free voicebanks - Liam, Mo Xu, amd Mai 2- to choose from. There will also be a discount on all SV2 voicebanks on the site as well (check the link for the detail and window of time).
Most importantly, for those of us who have SV1...
"Existing users of Synthesizer V Studio Pro version 1 will be able to upgrade to the version 2 editor for $49, with a discounted price of $39 until April 20th, 2025" additionally, you get to pick one of those three voicebanks for free when you upgrade.
I am a little unsure about how that adds up, honestly... am I missing something? wouldnt it be cheaper to get the $99 full price with Mai 2, Liam, and Mo Xu...? Instead of the $39 upgrade with one free voice? Because if I were to go off and buy two of those other three, I would have to be paying for two seperate banks at the price of $69 each assuming I get it during discount period. Then that would be like $177 by the end.
Though theres then the problem of upgrading our existing voices to the "SV2 version", like Hayden SV1 to Hayden SV2. They show a large chart of the prices, which will change depending on the amount of voice yuou upgrade but the starting price is $19 each. But for 5+ voice it is a total of $79 on discount and $89/$99 after, which is actually a great deal and seems fair to me. I was a little unsure about this process of upgrading old banks to new versions, as I dont really know all it offers in terms of better quality and use of the voices. They do note some voices have new/additional vocal modes in their new versions though. Of course, other companies will make their own prices, so we will have to wait and see...
Also, SV2 is cross compatible! That is, as long as those voices get proper updates to be used in SV2.
interesting note from Dreamtonics on their Standard voicebank: "The Standard (non-AI) version of Saki voice from version 1 will receive an update with re-trained models, effectively converting it into AI-based voices. The updated voice will have the same specifications as the compatibility updates for other version 1 voices".
There is also some new app/hub thing you will get to use that allows you to better track your licenses, buy voices, download stuff etc so, thats nice too i guess.
Overall? I am pretty okay with the pricing and offers. Nice to have the discounts for a certain period and the upgrade price for SV2 from SV1 users seems fair, except for my current confusion about offering one free voice but not the other three. if i am correct on my math here, i would probably just spend the full price in the end...
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perhaps i was misreading/not understanding their wording then-- if its one voice to chose the three from, for both full version and upgrade, that makes sense then
Yeah the formatting is weird because they said 3 free then names then after said you get to pick one after listing them it took me a few rereads to understand it