Other Cryptonloid voicebank updates, collabs, & concert news (crypton_wat Twitter translations)

[uncreepy]

I was looking around on Sonicwire and realized there was some news on the 16th that no one appears to have noticed:

The news article about it was only on the Japanese side (here is the English side to compare) and you can't even open it unless you own Miku Chinese. But if you go to the product page itself, it has this burgundy notice on it.

So it seems that users who got Miku Chinese before Valentine's Day can get Studio One Artist along with the Piapro VST to go along with it for free.

It's the 23rd in Japan now, so I'm not sure if this is going to be the announcement, since it was a low-key update a few days ago, or if there is something in addition to this? I wonder if being able to use the Piapro VST means that it's not locked to just Miku Chinese anymore?

 

[Scarlet Illusion]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Piapro VST refers to the version of Piapro that comes with Crypton's other vocals. Isn't standalone Piapro usually referred to as Piapro Standalone?

 

[uncreepy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Piapro VST refers to the version of Piapro that comes with Crypton's other vocals. Isn't standalone Piapro usually referred to as Piapro Standalone?

That's what I was trying to say.

Also, I talked to Kazumi about this (because they have had Miku Chinese for like over a year) and they think that this news is dated wrong and should be from 2018 and the article has been on there for a long time and is therefore labeled with the incorrect year.

Feb 8th vs 16th and still no ability to have anyone but Miku in it.

 

[Caprice]

There's a demo song out for the Chinese update!

 

[Leon]

Aaaand she has dropped! I won't even attempt to translate anything, but here's the original tweet with instructions to scroll down for the download if you're a previous Miku V4C owner, and also the new song they released with her :)


EDIT: Got ninja'd, edited to just the tweet ;)

 

[uncreepy]

The product page has updated (in both English and Japanese, link to English version), it says the voice is easier to us, more expressive, and has clearer vowels and consonants. It seems they wanted to better match the original singing voice of Miku's Japanese bank to match.

They updated Miku's older demo:


Older version of the song:

[#Hatsune Miku V4C Update] The distribution of the update for Hatsune Miku's Chinese version "Hatsune Miku V4 CHINESE" that sings in a cute type of voice has started! The phonemes that have been updated with the new technology have been improved for things like articulation and tone quality. The process to acquire the update data on the official page has now been made available HATSUNE MIKU V4 CHINESE（初音ミク V4 中文版） | SONICWIRE

The art in the tweet is by the same artist who drew her package artwork.

 

[peaches2217]

I don’t know if I’m imagining it, but it seems like there’s significantly less engine noise in the updated version. I like it!

 

[uncreepy]

I forgot to mention that (I believe) the new demo song is called "Flowers and Dreams".

Kazumi in the Discord is keeping us updated on the process/changes. The file is 2.5 GB and still downloading.

In my opinion, they have edited each phoneme to be clearer, just like they said they would do for the update to the Japanese phonemes for all Cryptonloids. (I wonder if they will do this for English, too?)

 

[uncreepy]

New Chinese version of Shippaisaku Shoujo (失敗作少女).


Old version:


Japanese version:

 

[uncreepy]

Might as well add, this, too.

From 2 years ago:


New version:


I am bad at Chinese and can't really hear a difference in these demos. Some of the demos have a noticeable volume difference, though.

 

[uncreepy]

This appears to be a brand new demo that is not a remake. (Please stop uploading demos so I can go back to bed. orz)

 

[Prism]

I know nothing about Chinese but I feel like she sounds closer to the Chinese vocaloids and sound clearer and sharper. She doesn't have the v3 Miku mumble to her.

 

[uncreepy]

Kazumi has created a Google Drive folder containing songs rendered with old Miku Chinese and the updated version, if you want to check it out. To summarize, she sounds smoother, clearer (as if through compression + clearer samples), more understandable, and softer.

 

[Caprice]

For those wondering, the update does not come with anything else. It's just the update to the voicebank. There are no updates yet available for the standalone editor. No updates have been made to the recordings, just how they're processed.

 

[uncreepy]

It's just the update to the voicebank. There are no updates yet available for the standalone editor. No updates have been made to the recordings, just how they're processed.

Wait, I'm confused. How can the voice bank be updated but no changes made to the recordings? Is there more information about the update somewhere I missed? The file was really big (2.5 GB), so I thought it seemed like the phonemes would be updated. The tweet I translated said "The phonemes that have been updated with the new technology have been improved for things like articulation and tone quality" but I guess that's kind of vague.

 

[xuu]

I'd assume they altered and processed samples that were especially bad offenders but consideirng Miku Chinese's configuration was laughably bad in the first place I guess they focused mostly on that. Most of what they've said regarding new technology seems to be a fancy way of them saying "we reprogrammed it". Probably did something similar to what they did with V4X and made the samples a lot clearer than the originals.

I actually quite like how her clarity has improved, but the tradeoff with her vocal becoming softer has definitely made her come across as slightly more choppy than before. I would sitll rank her last of all Chinese voicebanks by almost every metric (including Yuecheng and Chuchu) but this is still a significant improvement.

 

[Caprice]

Wait, I'm confused. How can the voice bank be updated but no changes made to the recordings? Is there more information about the update somewhere I missed? The file was really big (2.5 GB), so I thought it seemed like the phonemes would be updated. The tweet I translated said "The phonemes that have been updated with the new technology have been improved for things like articulation and tone quality" but I guess that's kind of vague.

I mean they don't seem to have done much of anything when it comes to new recordings, just fixing the old recordings.

 

[Scarlet Illusion]

So, this kind of like a Miku Chinese Act 2? Kinda reminds me of what was done back in the time period around Rin and Len's initial release; there was the original, but the original had issues so they've gone and released an updated version of the vb that's free to those who owned the original.

 

[xuu]

So, this kind of like a Miku Chinese Act 2? Kinda reminds me of what was done back in the time period around Rin and Len's initial release; there was the original, but the original had issues so they've gone and released an updated version of the vb that's free to those who owned the original.

Yeah, basically. Though unlike with RinLen where you would want Act1 in some circumstances there's like no good reason to want the initial Miku Chinese voicebank LOL

 

[Prism]

@xuu What is the benefits of act1 sorry I'm not a kagamine user to know the difference